Half Bro to Smarty entered on 1/1/07

[blackthroatedwind]

I'm already rooting against him.

The hatred should seep in shortly.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm already rooting against him.

The hatred should seep in shortly.

Why....

[blackthroatedwind]

I never warmed up to that horse. Probably because I was too stupid to like him and also because he had the most annoying following I have ever seen.

His absurd early retirement was the final nail in the coffin.

I thought his Preakness was very impressive however and any horse able to overcome Stewie Elliot as effectively as he did had to be pretty damn good.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I never warmed up to that horse. Probably because I was too stupid to like him and also because he had the most annoying following I have ever seen.

His absurd early retirement was the final nail in the coffin.

I thought his Preakness was very impressive however and any horse able to overcome Stewie Elliot as effectively as he did had to be pretty damn good.

excellent post, and point!

it's hard sometimes to like a horse when the adulation borders the ridiculous. or oversteps ridiculous and leaps to asinine. i think the worst tho was the adulation for rock hard ten. at least smarty had a ton of talent to go with his following, rather than just good looks and height.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

excellent post, and point!

it's hard sometimes to like a horse when the adulation borders the ridiculous. or oversteps ridiculous and leaps to asinine. i think the worst tho was the adulation for rock hard ten. at least smarty had a ton of talent to go with his following, rather than just good looks and height.

Yeah, Rock Hard Ten really sucked. He only won 5 graded stakes races in a row: He won the Swaps(Grade II), then the Malibu(Grade I), then the Strub(Grade II), then the SA Handicap(Grade I), then the Goodwood(Grade II).

I guess you're right. All he had was good looks. He only won 5 graded stakes races in a row at distances ranging anwhere from 7 furlongs to 1 1/4 miles. I can't figure out why people thought he was a good horse.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Yeah, Rock Hard Ten really sucked. He only won 5 graded stakes races in a row: He won the Swaps(Grade II), then the Malibu(Grade I), then the Strub(Grade II), then the SA Handicap(Grade I), then the Goodwood(Grade II).

I guess you're right. All he had was good looks. He only won 5 graded stakes races in a row at distances ranging anwhere from 7 furlongs to 1 1/4 miles. I can't figure out why people thought he was a good horse.

Have you seen Smarty's half work? I haven't heard ANYTHING about him but his works have been decent

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Scav

Have you seen Smarty's half work? I haven't heard ANYTHING about him but his works have been decent

He actually does come out of a 2 year olds in training sale. He comes out of the Fasig Tipton Timonium, Maryland Sale. He didn't sell for all that much money. He only sold for $120,000. He worked :10 3/5. I wasn't crazy about the work. I thought it was mediocre at best. I don't think other people were particularly impressed either or else he would have sold for a lot more than $120,000, being a half to Smarty.

[Rupert Pupkin]

I just realized that nobody has mentioned who the horse is by. He is by Orientate.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Yeah, Rock Hard Ten really sucked. He only won 5 graded stakes races in a row: He won the Swaps(Grade II), then the Malibu(Grade I), then the Strub(Grade II), then the SA Handicap(Grade I), then the Goodwood(Grade II).

I guess you're right. All he had was good looks. He only won 5 graded stakes races in a row at distances ranging anwhere from 7 furlongs to 1 1/4 miles. I can't figure out why people thought he was a good horse.

i guess i should have put in my post the fact that i was talking about RHT when he was running with smarty. i think he got bet way down because he was black--or maybe tall and black. he turned out well after, but he sure got a lot of undeserved attention when he came east before all his successes in cali.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

i guess i should have put in my post the fact that i was talking about RHT when he was running with smarty. i think he got bet way down because he was black--or maybe tall and black. he turned out well after, but he sure got a lot of undeserved attention when he came east before all his successes in cali.

Yes, that may be true. He hadn't accomplished that much at that time but he looked like he had a lot of potential.

[ManilaRose]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Yeah, Rock Hard Ten really sucked. He only won 5 graded stakes races in a row: He won the Swaps(Grade II), then the Malibu(Grade I), then the Strub(Grade II), then the SA Handicap(Grade I), then the Goodwood(Grade II).

I guess you're right. All he had was good looks. He only won 5 graded stakes races in a row at distances ranging anwhere from 7 furlongs to 1 1/4 miles. I can't figure out why people thought he was a good horse.

Lol. Yes, It's baffling isn't it.

[ManilaRose]

If this is the Orientate 1/2 bro he was one of the worst looking weanlings at Fasig-Tipton. Very small and incorrect. I believe he only went for 40k if I'm not mistaken.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

excellent post, and point!

it's hard sometimes to like a horse when the adulation borders the ridiculous. or oversteps ridiculous and leaps to asinine. i think the worst tho was the adulation for rock hard ten. at least smarty had a ton of talent to go with his following, rather than just good looks and height.

Isn't that the truth!

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I never warmed up to that horse. Probably because I was too stupid to like him and also because he had the most annoying following I have ever seen.

His absurd early retirement was the final nail in the coffin.

I thought his Preakness was very impressive however and any horse able to overcome Stewie Elliot as effectively as he did had to be pretty damn good.

You get ONE jockey to ride for you, ALL of them are available, riding today, who would it be

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Scav

You get ONE jockey to ride for you, ALL of them are available, riding today, who would it be

Prado.

I really don't care, but some guys are bad, and Elliot is one of them. When he rode the 2005 winter on the inner it was pitiful.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Prado.

I really don't care, but some guys are bad, and Elliot is one of them. When he rode the 2005 winter on the inner it was pitiful.

Victor Espinoza
C. Nak
Javy
Prado
Rene Douglas
C. Emigh (in Illinois)
K. Cogburn (not even sure if he is riding anymore)

These seven, I will never be upset at, because they got stones, and they TRY to win.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Scav

Victor Espinoza
C. Nak
Javy
Prado
Rene Douglas
C. Emigh (in Illinois)
K. Cogburn (not even sure if he is riding anymore)

These seven, I will never be upset at, because they got stones, and they TRY to win.

Currently there might be some people who would dispute the integrity of one member of your list.

I really don't watch California, but I have never forgiven Espinoza for his ridiculous premature moves on Spain in the Fall of 2001.

Originally Posted by Scav

Victor Espinoza
C. Nak
Javy
Prado
Rene Douglas
C. Emigh (in Illinois)
K. Cogburn (not even sure if he is riding anymore)

These seven, I will never be upset at, because they got stones, and they TRY to win.

Kevin Cogburn? Man Scav you do live on the edge! Your right, a good jock, who will give you whatever is under him. I know he rode in this year's LS TB meet. Probably now at SH, Delta or Sunland.

Where did you see him ride?

Ez

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Scav

You get ONE jockey to ride for you, ALL of them are available, riding today, who would it be

No question about it, SHANE!!!!!

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

No question about it, SHANE!!!!!

I can not even respond to such nonsense. He couldn't win a walkover