Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Triple Crown Topics/Archive..
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-08-2018, 06:18 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 44,411
Default

5/19/18 ~ Preakness Stakes (1 3/16M) Pimlico

Justify (Baffert)
Bravazo (Lukas)
Sporting Chance (Lukas)
Diamond King (Jo. Servis)
Tenfold (Asmussen)
Quip (Brisset)

Lone Sailor (Amoss)
Good Magic (Brown)
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.

Last edited by Kasept : 05-08-2018 at 08:43 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-08-2018, 08:35 AM
cakes44's Avatar
cakes44 cakes44 is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,747
Default

I’d be really surprised to see Good Magic. If he ends up in there, it would have to be because he’s doing unbelievable.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-08-2018, 12:39 PM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

At this point Justify feels more likely to win the Triple Crown then any horse i can remember. Based on his expected competition and his performances up to this point.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-08-2018, 01:10 PM
knickslions2's Avatar
knickslions2 knickslions2 is offline
Longchamps
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,764
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHT2004 View Post
At this point Justify feels more likely to win the Triple Crown then any horse i can remember. Based on his expected competition and his performances up to this point.
Lots could happen. First has to make all three races. Preakness is looking weak so he should be fine if ready. Belmont will be tougher then people expect. Hope the fitness will be there.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-08-2018, 01:30 PM
moses's Avatar
moses moses is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,915
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cakes44 View Post
I’d be really surprised to see Good Magic. If he ends up in there, it would have to be because he’s doing unbelievable.
If there is a weak field, which it seems like they may be headed that way, he’s a strong contender to end up in the money. Assuming he’s doing ok.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-08-2018, 03:34 PM
Seattleallstar's Avatar
Seattleallstar Seattleallstar is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,866
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cakes44 View Post
I’d be really surprised to see Good Magic. If he ends up in there, it would have to be because he’s doing unbelievable.
Everything I have read said Chad does not want to run back at all probably until the Haskell, if he runs it would be on the ownership
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-08-2018, 03:38 PM
Seattleallstar's Avatar
Seattleallstar Seattleallstar is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,866
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept View Post
5/19/18 ~ Preakness Stakes (1 3/16M) Pimlico

Justify (Baffert)
Bravazo (Lukas)
Sporting Chance (Lukas)
Diamond King (Jo. Servis)
Tenfold (Asmussen)
Quip (Brisset)

Lone Sailor (Amoss)
Good Magic (Brown)
what horrible field, Justify wins this with Mike Smith on the brakes the whole time. But this only enhances the Belmont as Justify goes for the Triple Crown. This will be a just enjoy the race Preakness instead of trying to win money Preakness.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-08-2018, 05:24 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 44,411
Default

Add Givemeaminit (Stewart) to the Preakness.. Lone Sailor (Amoss) from possible to probable..
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-08-2018, 11:02 PM
richard burch's Avatar
richard burch richard burch is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: new jersey
Posts: 1,752
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattleallstar View Post
what horrible field, Justify wins this with Mike Smith on the brakes the whole time. But this only enhances the Belmont as Justify goes for the Triple Crown. This will be a just enjoy the race Preakness instead of trying to win money Preakness.
Has to be a way to make money on this. He will be 1/5 but hopefully a long price underneath. If this is the field its easy.

1.) Justify (Baffert)

over...

Bravazo (Lukas)
Sporting Chance (Lukas)
Diamond King (Jo. Servis)
Tenfold (Asmussen)
Quip (Brisset)
Lone Sailor (Amoss)
Good Magic (Brown)

over...

Bravazo (Lukas)
Sporting Chance (Lukas)
Diamond King (Jo. Servis)
Tenfold (Asmussen)
Quip (Brisset)
Lone Sailor (Amoss)
Good Magic (Brown)
__________________
Support your local Re-run or horse rescue organization.
https://www.rerunottb.com/:)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-09-2018, 07:51 AM
cakes44's Avatar
cakes44 cakes44 is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,747
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by richard burch View Post
Has to be a way to make money on this. He will be 1/5 but hopefully a long price underneath. If this is the field its easy.

1.) Justify (Baffert)

over...

Bravazo (Lukas)
Sporting Chance (Lukas)
Diamond King (Jo. Servis)
Tenfold (Asmussen)
Quip (Brisset)
Lone Sailor (Amoss)
Good Magic (Brown)

over...

Bravazo (Lukas)
Sporting Chance (Lukas)
Diamond King (Jo. Servis)
Tenfold (Asmussen)
Quip (Brisset)
Lone Sailor (Amoss)
Good Magic (Brown)
Perfect. And when Good Magic finishes 2nd, it will pay $17.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-09-2018, 10:17 AM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cakes44 View Post
Perfect. And when Good Magic finishes 2nd, it will pay $17.
The only way to make money is keying Justify in a pick 4 or 5. Catching a price or 2 or hitting it multiple times. This is not a horse I am trying to beat
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-09-2018, 05:08 PM
saratogadew saratogadew is offline
Oaklawn
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Doylestown, PA
Posts: 2,027
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHT2004 View Post
The only way to make money is keying Justify in a pick 4 or 5. Catching a price or 2 or hitting it multiple times. This is not a horse I am trying to beat
Justify/Quip/All/All Superfecta
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-10-2018, 12:18 PM
casp0555's Avatar
casp0555 casp0555 is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Humble,Texas
Posts: 19,205
Default

a sure fire lock is this....put all on top, put my winning choice down as second, my second choice down as third and then the longest shot on the board as fourth....stone cold lock I say
__________________
"Wise men talk because they have something to say, fools talk because they have to say something" - Plato
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-10-2018, 05:58 PM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by saratogadew View Post
Justify/Quip/All/All Superfecta
Seenms silly to me. Not a Quip fan either.

Last edited by RHT2004 : 05-11-2018 at 08:18 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-13-2018, 11:00 AM
moses's Avatar
moses moses is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,915
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattleallstar View Post
what horrible field, Justify wins this with Mike Smith on the brakes the whole time. But this only enhances the Belmont as Justify goes for the Triple Crown. This will be a just enjoy the race Preakness instead of trying to win money Preakness.
Like many others, I like the inclusion of Tenfold in the race. A horse I haven’t heard much about is Diamond King. He will face the best competition he’s ever faced but he ran very well last time out off the layoff and was running hard down the stretch. I’m hoping the local connections don’t hurt his post odds. I may put some money on him to win and will probably end up putting a decent amount on:

Justify / Tenfold, Diamond King / Tenfold, Diamond King, Good Magic, Lone Sailor
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-13-2018, 06:06 PM
Hickory Hill Hoff's Avatar
Hickory Hill Hoff Hickory Hill Hoff is offline
Newmarket
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: the "Sand Flats"
Posts: 6,903
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by moses View Post
Like many others, I like the inclusion of Tenfold in the race. A horse I haven’t heard much about is Diamond King. He will face the best competition he’s ever faced but he ran very well last time out off the layoff and was running hard down the stretch. I’m hoping the local connections don’t hurt his post odds. I may put some money on him to win and will probably end up putting a decent amount on:

Justify / Tenfold, Diamond King / Tenfold, Diamond King, Good Magic, Lone Sailor
I see the same play here
__________________
"Change can be good, but constant change shows no direction"

http://www.hickoryhillhoff.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 05-13-2018, 10:57 PM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

Bolt D`Old to Met Mile. If Army Mule and Backyard Heaven and a few other's show up, he should compete for 6th.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-14-2018, 12:43 AM
Alabama Stakes Alabama Stakes is offline
Havre de Grace
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: suffolk downs
Posts: 5,811
Default

On a fast track he will whistle. No Justify in the Met Mile. Didn't like the mud.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-14-2018, 07:59 PM
cakes44's Avatar
cakes44 cakes44 is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,747
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHT2004 View Post
Bolt D`Old to Met Mile. If Army Mule and Backyard Heaven and a few other's show up, he should compete for 6th.
Possibly, but I love that they are thinking outside the box. There have been 3-year-olds fairly recently that would have fit just fine in the MM and have no business at the 1 3/16 or 1 1/2 of the Preakness or Belmont. Pretty sure Practical Joke was in good enough form to finish 3rd last year. And Army Mule and Backyard Heaven are fast and fast risers, but not exactly known commodities.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-14-2018, 08:44 PM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cakes44 View Post
Possibly, but I love that they are thinking outside the box. There have been 3-year-olds fairly recently that would have fit just fine in the MM and have no business at the 1 3/16 or 1 1/2 of the Preakness or Belmont. Pretty sure Practical Joke was in good enough form to finish 3rd last year. And Army Mule and Backyard Heaven are fast and fast risers, but not exactly known commodities.
I don't dislike the placement. Just think it will prove to ambitious.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.