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Old 04-09-2018, 03:25 PM
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Gotta think JJC had first choice there.

Who jumps on BDO?
Javier almost surely stuck with the trainer he needs to ride for over the long haul. It is highly unlikely he believes Audible is more likely to win the Derby than Bolt D'Oro.
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Old 04-09-2018, 03:49 PM
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Javier almost surely stuck with the trainer he needs to ride for over the long haul. It is highly unlikely he believes Audible is more likely to win the Derby than Bolt D'Oro.
I agree. I was surprised that the bettors in Pool 4 considered Audible a more likely winner than Bolt D'Oro.
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Old 04-09-2018, 03:55 PM
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Javier almost surely stuck with the trainer he needs to ride for over the long haul. It is highly unlikely he believes Audible is more likely to win the Derby than Bolt D'Oro.

Then why take the Bolt mount in the first place? It seems unlikely Ruis would have given the mount to JJC without an understanding that the Derby was a part of the deal.
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Old 04-09-2018, 06:59 PM
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Then why take the Bolt mount in the first place? It seems unlikely Ruis would have given the mount to JJC without an understanding that the Derby was a part of the deal.
Well, apparently he didn't.

It's a reasonable question but it's also not unreasonable to suggest that two months ago that Todd wouldn't have needed Javier.
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Old 04-10-2018, 09:41 AM
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If i had to choose, it would be Vino of the Pletcher horses. Seems to be putting it together, and an argument can be made he just disliked Tampa. Seemed to be spinning his wheels late in races after being perfectly placed.
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:14 AM
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If i had to choose, it would be Vino of the Pletcher horses. Seems to be putting it together, and an argument can be made he just disliked Tampa. Seemed to be spinning his wheels late in races after being perfectly placed.
I'm interested to see Magnum Moon run this weekend again. Ran big in the rebel and if he improves will be very dangerous in the derby. In my opinion Todd's best horse.
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:29 AM
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If i had to choose, it would be Vino of the Pletcher horses. Seems to be putting it together, and an argument can be made he just disliked Tampa. Seemed to be spinning his wheels late in races after being perfectly placed.
The problem with that argument is his race in the Sam Davis. He can't like it one day and then not on another.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:04 AM
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Javier realizes that Bolt Was no match for Justify and as least has a chance with Audible who has been brilliant so far. As cool as some of the contenders are, they are all running for second money as it is clear that Justify is the goods.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:42 AM
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what are the chances that TP's horses don't hit the board, ala Zito's fivesome years ago ? Just sayin' --
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Old 04-10-2018, 07:32 PM
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Javier realizes that Bolt Was no match for Justify and as least has a chance with Audible who has been brilliant so far. As cool as some of the contenders are, they are all running for second money as it is clear that Justify is the goods.
I have Justify at 30/1 I just vomited in my mouth and ripped my ticket up. Come on Kryptonite...DOOMED
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