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Old 12-21-2006, 12:04 PM
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When I go to Vegas I usually play horses for about 3 days and the last day
there I play slots. Lost about 200 dollars last time playing horses and won about 150 playing slots. Go pretty light on the slots because I am very unlucky at playing them. Have never won more than a little over 300 on slots machines, but enjoy playing them occasionally. Of all the card game variations, I like 3 card poker best, but all of them are tough to beat. Have won occasionally at 3 card, but the others like Carribean Stud and Let It Ride are all impossible. Can't play blackjack because it's too boring. Just watching people play craps is hysterical.
My mom is the luckiest person alive when it comes to playing the slots (wins every time)... I always lose.
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:17 PM
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Craps is really your best bet in all gambling. You have to basically nothing. but 10 on the past line and 20 behind it and the house holds a whole .6 edge against you. Horses and poker you actually have to be intelligent in the long run to win.
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Old 12-21-2006, 01:36 PM
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Craps is really your best bet in all gambling. You have to basically nothing. but 10 on the past line and 20 behind it and the house holds a whole .6 edge against you. Horses and poker you actually have to be intelligent in the long run to win.
skippy, "Craps is really your best bet" is true only if the following two statements are true:

1. You are smart enough to just bet the pass line and to always take 2x odds.
2. You are not smart enough to learn blackjack basic strategy. (or, alternatively, the correct strategy for several common video poker games.)

Blackjack at casinos like Bellagio, Wynn, and MGM can be played with less than 0.3% against you. (I'm just talking basic strategy, not card counting.) A person of average intelligence can learn the basic strategy in 2-3 hours.

You can find the popular Jacks-or-Better version of video poker at most casinos. If the pay table is the one that pays 9 for a full house and 6 for a flush, then playing with the proper strategy puts you at a 0.5% disadvantage. That's already better than your "best bet" craps, but it doesn't take into account cashback. Wynn for example gives you back 0.25% of your action as cashback, making the total expected loss less than 0.3%.

There are some versions of video poker that are even better than Jacks or Better. For example, the full pay version of PickEm has just 0.05% against you.

Learning a correct video poker strategy probably takes longer than learning the correct blackjack basic strategy.

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Old 12-21-2006, 01:57 PM
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skippy, "Craps is really your best bet" is true only if the following two statements are true:

1. You are smart enough to just bet the pass line and to always take 2x odds.
2. You are not smart enough to learn blackjack basic strategy. (or, alternatively, the correct strategy for several common video poker games.)

Blackjack at casinos like Bellagio, Wynn, and MGM can be played with less than 0.3% against you. (I'm just talking basic strategy, not card counting.) A person of average intelligence can learn the basic strategy in 2-3 hours.

You can find the popular Jacks-or-Better version of video poker at most casinos. If the pay table is the one that pays 9 for a full house and 6 for a flush, then playing with the proper strategy puts you at a 0.5% disadvantage. That's already better than your "best bet" craps, but it doesn't take into account cashback. Wynn for example gives you back 0.25% of your action as cashback, making the total expected loss less than 0.3%.

There are some versions of video poker that are even better than Jacks or Better. For example, the full pay version of PickEm has just 0.05% against you.

Learning a correct video poker strategy probably takes longer than learning the correct blackjack basic strategy.

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When I go to Vegas to shoot craps, it's always at Sam's Town out on the Highway. 20x odds. Brings the house edge down to 0.10%.
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:03 PM
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My mom is the luckiest person alive when it comes to playing the slots (wins every time)... I always lose.
My wife is like that, but if she's winning, I can't go near. If I just stand next to machine she's playing, she stops winning. I think they made a movie about a guy like that. I just need to hire myself out to the casinos. Must be some sort of negative aura (electrical? force field?) or something that I project. No matter, children and dogs like me, even if some machines don't.
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:07 PM
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My mom is the luckiest person alive when it comes to playing the slots (wins every time)... I always lose.
that sounds like my brother with scratch tickets...he ALWAYS wins. Makes me crazy...and jealous since I never win at any chance thing like that.
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