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Old 04-17-2017, 10:16 PM
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Personal attack? What part of Byks post did you take personally? That he didn't refute you with a more gentle hand?
People are very sensitive nowadays. They will take the beating but it has to be more like a pie in the face in lieu of a verbal thrashing.
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Old 04-17-2017, 11:19 PM
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People are very sensitive nowadays. They will take the beating but it has to be more like a pie in the face in lieu of a verbal thrashing.
If Byks reply to that inane post was a verbal thrashing a spinal transplant is badly needed.
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Old 07-13-2017, 07:27 PM
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'Retired' Dortmund resumes training at Los Alamitos
By Steve Andersen

CYPRESS, Calif. - Dortmund, the winner of the 2015 Santa Anita Derby, recently resumed training after being announced as retired in early April.

Trainer Art Sherman said Thursday that Dortmund has been at his stable at Los Alamitos since the start of July.

“He’s jogging a few miles a day,” Sherman said. “He’ll jog for 30 days. We’ll see what happens.”

Dortmund was taken out of training in April after two disappointing races earlier this year. At the time, owner Kaleem Shah said he was discouraged by Dortmund’s sixth-place finish in the Grade 1 Frank Kilroe Mile on turf at Santa Anita on March 11 and his fourth in the Santana Mile on dirt on April 1.

“When I saw him get beat the last time, I thought that was enough,” Shah said at the time.

Shah said in April he hoped to complete a stallion deal for Dortmund.

A 5-year-old, Dortmund has won 8 of 16 starts and earned $1,987,505. The Santa Anita Derby is the most prestigious win of his career. Dortmund was trained by Bob Baffert until the start of this year, when Shah and Baffert parted ways.

Dortmund was third to American Pharoah in the 2015 Kentucky Derby and was winless in four starts last year, including a second to eventual Horse of the Year California Chrome in the Grade 1 Awesome Again Stakes last October.

Sherman said he is taking a cautious approach to Dortmund’s return to training.

“Until you start breezing you don’t know, but right now he looks pretty good,” Sherman said. “We’ll keep a low profile and watch him.”

Sherman will have 10 horses based at Del Mar this summer, but said Dortmund will remain with the rest of the stable at Los Alamitos.
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Old 07-13-2017, 09:27 PM
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Couldn't get a good enough stud deal? Did they test his fertility and run into a problem? Hmm. I don't see a scenario where this does anything for Dortmund, but I hope I'm wrong. I was a fan of this horse from early on, not knowing American Pharoah was what he was yet. I'd rather he retire with dignity.
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Old 07-14-2017, 12:06 AM
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Plus it must help that Shah is finally seeing some wins since his break up with Baffert
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:03 AM
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The only thing I can think of is that Dortmund was born the wrong year.
I'm pretty sure Baffert didn't tell the jock he was supposed to lose to AP every chance he could. Dortmund just wasn't a 10 furlong colt. He may be able to get 10 now. He's matured. He's a moose. The owner wants the Derby, the BC, the biggest money races. Sorry,guy. The competition was too strong. Still is.
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Old 07-14-2017, 08:00 PM
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The fact that his sire, Big Brown, has not been a commercial success, and that Dortmund has had soundness issues, and is very large are not pluses to stud farms.

He was my Derby horse and I hope Art Sherman is able to revive his career.
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