Weekend Stakes Beyers: Classic Empire 94

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Irish War Cry, Gunnevera, McCraken will all be 15-1 at less

IWC feels like 12/1 to me but yea, guess he is one that will take money,

McCraken will not take much money off that last race, and he has no fast races, and Tampa Bay is not going to impress anyone.

Gunnevera may take a little money, maybe he gets down to 15/1 along with Gormley.

[blackthroatedwind]

Gormley should be no lower than 50:1. I'm hard pressed to find a worse horse in the race.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

IWC feels like 12/1 to me but yea, guess he is one that will take money,

McCraken will not take much money off that last race, and he has no fast races, and Tampa Bay is not going to impress anyone.

Gunnevera may take a little money, maybe he gets down to 15/1 along with Gormley.

Gormley 15-1 fresh off that 88 beyer? Wouldn't take 40-1.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

IWC feels like 12/1 to me but yea, guess he is one that will take money,

McCraken will not take much money off that last race, and he has no fast races, and Tampa Bay is not going to impress anyone.

Gunnevera may take a little money, maybe he gets down to 15/1 along with Gormley.

Am i missing something with IWC that is making people say 12 or 15-1? I dont love him but he had 2 big wins that are faster then anything anyone else has run this year. I see 8-1 possibly lower if he's working big time. Remember the Animal Kingdom buzz week of?

[Indian Charlie]

There is no way in Heck that IWC is as high as 12/1.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

There is no way in Heck that IWC is as high as 12/1.

Yeah, I agree. He kind of feels like 8-1 to me.

Who is getting money before him? Classic Empire and Always Dreaming seem like it to me.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Yeah, I agree. He kind of feels like 8-1 to me.

Who is getting money before him? Classic Empire and Always Dreaming seem like it to me.

Those are the two favorites for sure. I suppose their might be some unreasonable McCracken backers.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Yeah, I agree. He kind of feels like 8-1 to me.

Who is getting money before him? Classic Empire and Always Dreaming seem like it to me.

That was my point on Gormly, as a predictor of the publics betting habits...

i agree with andy but wanted it to be clear I was acting as a morning line maker not my line.

[taxicab]

Only two horses in this years field are Gr. 1 winners at 2 & 3.
Classic Empire/Gormley.
Thunder Snow made it close,but the UAE Derby is a Gr. 2.
In terms of Gormley,you'd have to think that a muddy track would suit him well(Gr. 3 skate in the soup).