facepalm of the day

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Sorry it happened but I would think his parents and not the Catholic school bore the majority of the blame for the pervert's actions.

Ironically the only harassment I observed during 12 years of Catholic school was from 3 homosexual, Jesuit priests, one of whom was the school's President, during my Junior and Senior years at an all boys H.S.

Unluckily he avoided prison time but has since been removed. And two victims is a joke, more like 50 would be my guess. Victim received a settlement in the 90's and over 15 years later he was removed? :

http://www.bishopaccountability.org/...awrence_sj.htm

This post isn't exactly what I would call a defense of Catholic schools.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

This post isn't exactly what I would call a defense of Catholic schools.

Wasn't meant to be. Certainly when I look back on the Academy and my grade school it wasn't the nuns and priests I remember fondly, it was my fellow students and many of their parents.

Loyola's majority of priests were decent, not great but decent, but some (at least 3) were Godless, lying, Chicken Hawks, nothing more and NOTHING LESS.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Loyola's majority of priests were decent, not great but decent

Interestingly, that's one of the issues with private schools (many of which are religious)- the teachers are okay, but nothing great, because they don't have to continue their education or learn about new teaching methods. Public school teachers are required to continue their education (at their own expense) if they are to maintain their certification. At the non-profit I worked at, we offered some continuing education programs for teachers a few times every year. I hated them, because they were always on holidays (because no school) so I had to work holidays, but then again, at least I was paid to be there on a holiday, while the teachers attending were paying to be there on their days off.

[GenuineRisk]

http://gawker.com/ceo-of-bankrupt-ch...s-i-1700456997

Good grief. That letter...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

http://gawker.com/ceo-of-bankrupt-ch...s-i-1700456997

Good grief. That letter...

Oho....wow

I have no doubt they learned something valuable....how tone deaf can you be?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Interestingly, that's one of the issues with private schools (many of which are religious)- the teachers are okay, but nothing great, because they don't have to continue their education or learn about new teaching methods. Public school teachers are required to continue their education (at their own expense) if they are to maintain their certification. At the non-profit I worked at, we offered some continuing education programs for teachers a few times every year. I hated them, because they were always on holidays (because no school) so I had to work holidays, but then again, at least I was paid to be there on a holiday, while the teachers attending were paying to be there on their days off.

Except some of the lay teachers I had at LA were exceptional. While priests mainly taught things like English, Latin and Theology, lay teachers primarily taught math, science and history. The reason I went there was a decision made solely by my mother and it wasn't because of religion but rather the school being far superior to Glenbrook South, the public school I would have gone to. I just checked and Loyola to this day towers over GBS in both test scores and students going onto college. I must also add my hometown Glenview IL was upper-middle class to upper class and remains so today.

Also I'd say a 1/3 of the students attending Loyola were not Catholic and theology was not a mandatory class. In fact I was enrolled in an integrated science program freshman and sophomore year where Chemistry, Physics and Biology I and II were all taught in a 2-period class and those in the program did not take theology.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Except some of the lay teachers I had at LA were exceptional. While priests mainly taught things like English, Latin and Theology, lay teachers primarily taught math, science and history. The reason I went there was a decision made solely by my mother and it wasn't because of religion but rather the school being far superior to Glenbrook South, the public school I would have gone to. I just checked and Loyola to this day towers over GBS in both test scores and students going onto college. I must also add my hometown Glenview IL was upper-middle class to upper class and remains so today.

Also I'd say a 1/3 of the students attending Loyola were not Catholic and theology was not a mandatory class. In fact I was enrolled in an integrated science program freshman and sophomore year where Chemistry, Physics and Biology I and II were all taught in a 2-period class and those in the program did not take theology.

Out of curiosity, I googled, and in fact 13 percent of Glenbrook South's students are economically disadvantaged. Obviously, I don't know what the demographics were when you were there, but today slightly more than one out of ten students is poor. In light of that, they have an exceptionally good graduation rate.

Loyola's tuition is currently over $15,000/year.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Out of curiosity, I googled, and in fact 13 percent of Glenbrook South's students are economically disadvantaged. Obviously, I don't know what the demographics were when you were there, but today slightly more than one out of ten students is poor. In light of that, they have an exceptionally good graduation rate.

Loyola's tuition is currently over $15,000/year.

This school year Loyola Academy is awarding almost $4 million in scholarships based on financial need. The recipients of these awards are as diverse as our student body. There is no standard formula for determining an award. Each case is considered individually. We have made awards to families with no means of support and to families with six figure incomes. The average award this year was $6,800. The size of the awards have varied from $1,000 to full tuition. Where our recipients live is equally varied. They live in Chicago and over twenty-five suburbs including Niles, Evanston, Highland Park, Glenview, Park Ridge, Wilmette and Winnetka, to name a few.

http://www.goramblers.org/FinancialAid

You can bash the Catholic Church but trust me bashing Loyola is a losing battle.

[dellinger63]

And LA became co-ed to accommodate girls after Marilac HS an all-girls HS closed. At least when I was there we had far more minorities and low income kids than GBS did. And they were fellow Ramblers not minorities to us!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

http://www.goramblers.org/FinancialAid

You can bash the Catholic Church but trust me bashing Loyola is a losing battle.

And how do they accept these lower income students? Do they just take in anyone, as public schools are required to do, or do they get to pick and choose who they feel will be a good fit for their school?