How Is Obamacare Working Out for You?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-wars...illion/5350789

Massive direct spending on the two imperialist interventions continues.

Nice to know Harvard's Kennedy School of Government now considers us an Imperialist nation as opposed to a Democracy.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Nice to know Harvard's Kennedy School of Government now considers us an Imperialist nation as opposed to a Democracy.

Dell my point is that both parties are destroying this country.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

Dell my point is that both parties are destroying this country.

And on that I agree with you.

If only we could have the 'Greatest Generation' back.

One's who valued independence from government as opposed to dependence on government.

Where actions meant more than feelings.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

And on that I agree with you.

If only we could have the 'Greatest Generation' back.

One's who valued independence from government as opposed to dependence on government.

Where actions meant more than feelings.

Dependence on the government by the Rich and Poor while us stuck in the middle pay the tab.

[dellinger63]

If Illinois paid for the upkeep, stabling and vet costs for every unsuccessful T-Bred, how many more horses would be produced?

Now substitute humans for horses.

Then consider Mexican bred horses to be eligible 'restricted State bred' races.

Face it we're FUBAR'ed

But as long as a gay couple gets denied a gay wedding cake we have a squirrel to focus on.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

If Illinois paid for the upkeep, stabling and vet costs for every unsuccessful T-Bred, how many more horses would be produced?

Now substitute humans for horses.

Then consider Mexican bred horses to be eligible 'restricted State bred' races.

Face it we're FUBAR'ed

But as long as a gay couple gets denied a gay wedding cake we have a squirrel to focus on.

^^^^
THIS

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

^^^^
THIS

'this' what?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Dependence on the government by the Rich and Poor while us stuck in the middle pay the tab.

god, that is so true.
so often i see or hear people talking about how they're just a few dollars above the limit, so no help for health issues, education/college, and the like.
you're not poor, but you're not where you can really afford some things, but there's no help because of total income. you go from assistance to nothing just like that.
my assistants good friend had a son with heart problems, ended up having to get a transplant heart...a few weeks later, he passed. they got no help at all with all of that, because he worked. so, they have bills like mad. quite often medical is what puts people in the poor house.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

quite often medical is what puts people in the poor house.

Thisthisthis.

I shake my head when people grouse about the inheritance tax, which will not affect any but the very wealthy, completely ignoring the fact that the cost of health care in this country amounts to a 100 percent inheritance tax on the middle class, since the majority of people incur most of their health care costs in the last six months of life and it often eats up whatever they might have had left for their descendants.

My parents' health care costs are absolutely eating up everything my dad spent his life saving for retirement. A relative who just passed away was paying $700 a month for her health insurance premium. She was regularly down to $20 in her checking account a day or so before the next SS payment came in.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Thisthisthis.

I shake my head when people grouse about the inheritance tax, which will not affect any but the very wealthy, completely ignoring the fact that the cost of health care in this country amounts to a 100 percent inheritance tax on the middle class, since the majority of people incur most of their health care costs in the last six months of life and it often eats up whatever they might have had left for their descendants.

My parents' health care costs are absolutely eating up everything my dad spent his life saving for retirement. A relative who just passed away was paying $700 a month for her health insurance premium. She was regularly down to $20 in her checking account a day or so before the next SS payment came in.

another issue that has yet to be tackled....
we are living longer and longer--who's going to pick up the tab for end of life care? right now, you spend down til you're indigent and then medicaid pays-medicare doesn't after 90 days. so after 3 months, if you have to stay-you have to dig really deep. if you're married, spouse can stay in home-and keep one car. the rest have to be sold. life insurance with cash value? you have to either cash it in and give the money to the nursing home, or sign it over to the funeral home.
the average nursing home is over $6k a month for a semi-private room. that's just to stay, that doesn't include any medical care, etc. average length of stay, 2 years.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Thisthisthis.

I shake my head when people grouse about the inheritance tax, which will not affect any but the very wealthy.

Meet my neighbors, the Pearce's. Because of where their farmland is located it's probably worth in the neighborhood of $30 million, probably another 5 million in structures and equipment. But yea, let's make his heirs pay $10 million in inheritance taxes and be forced to sell off a third of the land for development because Bob and the 5 generations before him worked too hard!

http://www.pearcefarms.com/about.htm