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[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Come on! Go to any one of these progressive sites and see how they bash christians. They're not tame about it. Most of them don't even attempt to hide their disdain for christians and republicans.

Once again, you try to shift the onus on me of proving your own claim. Nope. It's your responsibility to find these "progressive" sites and specific articles bashing Christians for being Christian (bashing a Christian for shouting Bible verses at a captive audience or assassinating a doctor as he leaves his church don't count, as those are clearly criticisms of actions, not faith). Go ahead, I'll wait. I suggest you read the whole article though, not just the headline.

But I think some of those stereotypes are fairly common amongst non-conservatives too. For example, if you are travelling and there is a group of 5 Muslim men on your plane, would you get a little bit nervous?

No. Because I'm not prejudiced against Muslims, and don't hold an entire faith responsible for what a small minority of its members do. You know, like how a small minority of Christians terrorize women outside abortion clinics and paint swastikas on synagogues (when they aren't setting fire to them), and blow up government buildings, including day care centers filled with little kids. I don't hold all Christians responsible and suspect to suspicion because the Christian Identity movement exists.

I read much of the Duck Dynasty interview. I have a different take from you. I don't think the guy has any hate in his heart for gays or minorities. If you think he does I disagree with you.

"Much." Not all. Right.

Show me where I said the man had "hate in his heart," please.

Going back to your other question about the conservative movement, I think people often times make incorrect assumptions about a person based on that person's stance on a policy. This seem to happen more in partisan politics than other things. For example, do you remember the disabled golfer Casey Martin? Because of his disability, he couldn't walk the golf course. He needed to ride in a golf cart. But golf carts are not allowed on the PGA Tour. So there was a controversy. Casey Martin sued claiming that the no-cart policy was discriminatory against disabled people. Anyway, there were plenty of people on his side and plenty of people against him. They weren't against him because they didn't like disabled people. They were against him because they don't think anybody should be be allowed to ride in a cart because they think walking is part of the game. If this was partisan politics, these people would probably be accused of being anti-disabled people. In the case of Casey Martin, I never heard that accusation.

To quote from the Right's patron saint, "There you go again," with the "probably"s. Probably ain't fact. Back it up with proof or you're just making stuff up.

It's too bad that politics aren't the same way. If a person thinks we need to secure our borders, that certainly doesn't mean that the person doesn't like Latino people. But the person will be accused of this all day by some on the left. In many cases, I don't think it's just an accusation thrown out there for effect. I think they really believe it.

And there you go again with "think." Back it up with proof.