DADT possible vote tonight!

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Originally Posted by Danzig

in terms of numbers, i already said there'd been a difference. what i find so amusing is the suggestion that the dems are actually going to attempt to make the filibuster no longer allowed.

Why do you keep misstating "no longer allowed"? Nobody, including me, including the Dems in news on the subject, ever said the filibuster would be eliminated. I've even posted - several times - what changes are being discussed. None are elimination.

they don't have the numbers to do that come january.

They most certainly do have the numbers. The filibuster is a Senate only thing, (it has nothing at all to do with the House) the Dems hold the majority of the Senate, plus the Vice Presidency.

The filibuster an in-house-decided parliamentary rules thing that is established, lead by the majority party, opening day of each Senate. And they certainly do intend to change it, due to record historical obstruction by the GOP in the last 2-4 years.

could you tell me why they're going to do that now, as opposed to sitting on their hands in that regard the last two years? i haven't seen anyone address that point yet.

Actually, I have, twice, but you've ignored it. The filibuster can only be changed on opening day of the Senate when parliamentary rules are established. It cannot be changed sometime during the two years. Yes, it was heavily discussed 2 years ago (changing the rules), but the Dems, being who they are, figured the GOP would not be able to be so obstructive with the Dem majority. They were wrong. The GOP got worse.