5/15 (PIM): Ike out; 12 for Preakness; Draw 5pm (HRTV)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

It's no different than in other sports, you need a championship to elevate yourself to superstar status. Not unlike Pletcher getting his 1st derby, Frankel with his BC...There are the Tom Brady's, Gretzky's and Crosby's that are associated with winning, until Ovie shows he can lift his team over the hump, he will always have that tag of being a great individual player that can win during the season but can he win the big game?

so, if you really believe that, doug williams or mark rypien is a better QB than dan marino???