I'll Have Another

[Calzone Lord]

I bet the underbidder on him is now sick.

He sold for just $35,000 at the April OBS 2yo sale. Here was his performance in the under-tack show...

http://obssales.com/aprcatalog/2011/494.wmv

He actually wasn't slow at all. He ran an 1/8th of a mile in 10.40 seconds.

The average time that day was between 10.80 and 11 flat. So he was a lot quicker than par...but certainly not the kind of over-the-top speed you look for. Like about 85% of them, he wore blinkers for his under-tack show.

The one thing I think he had going for him was his stamina pedigree.

His sire Flower Alley won the Travers at 10 furlongs.

His dam sire Arch won the Gr 1 Super Derby at 10fs. Arch also sired Blame.

His 2nd dam was by Pleasant Tap who was a multiple Grade 1 winner at 10f's. He won the Jockey Club Gold Cup over Ap Indy and Strike The Gold and also won the 10f Suburban Handicap. Pleasant Tap was also 3rd in the Kentucky Derby and 2nd in the BC Classic.

His 3rd dam was by Caucasus who won the Group 1 Irish St Leger at 1 3/4 miles. He won the 2-mile South Bay Handicap. In America he was 3rd in the Hollywood Gold Cup at 10fs on dirt and 3rd in the San Juan Capistrano at 14fs on turf.

His 4th dam was by Sea-Bird who won the English Derby and The Arc De Triomphe both at 12 furlongs.

That's about as hard-core as it gets for stamina through the tail-female family.

The two fastest colts that day worked 10-flat... and they were a Roman Ruler out of an Is It True mare. And a Werblin out of a Holy Mountain mare. Trinniberg worked 10 1/5th that day for my all-time favorite consignment M & H Training and Sales.

[Mawhip]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I bet the underbidder on him is now sick.

He sold for just $35,000 at the April OBS 2yo sale. Here was his performance in the under-tack show...

http://obssales.com/aprcatalog/2011/494.wmv

He actually wasn't slow at all. He ran an 1/8th of a mile in 10.40 seconds.

The average time that day was between 10.80 and 11 flat. So he was a lot quicker than par...but certainly not the kind of over-the-top speed you look for. Like about 85% of them, he wore blinkers for his under-tack show.

The one thing I think he had going for him was his stamina pedigree.

His sire Flower Alley won the Travers at 10 furlongs.

His dam sire Arch won the Gr 1 Super Derby at 10fs. Arch also sired Blame.

His 2nd dam was by Pleasant Tap who was a multiple Grade 1 winner at 10f's. He won the Jockey Club Gold Cup over Ap Indy and Strike The Gold and also won the 10f Suburban Handicap. Pleasant Tap was also 3rd in the Kentucky Derby and 2nd in the BC Classic.

His 3rd dam was by Caucasus who won the Group 1 Irish St Leger at 1 3/4 miles. He won the 2-mile South Bay Handicap. In America he was 3rd in the Hollywood Gold Cup at 10fs on dirt and 3rd in the San Juan Capistrano at 14fs on turf.

His 4th dam was by Sea-Bird who won the English Derby and The Arc De Triomphe both at 12 furlongs.

That's about as hard-core as it gets for stamina through the tail-female family.

The two fastest colts that day worked 10-flat... and they were a Roman Ruler out of an Is It True mare. And a Werblin out of a Holy Mountain mare. Trinniberg worked 10 1/5th that day for my all-time favorite consignment M & H Training and Sales.

Are you sure there was an underbidder.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Mawhip

Are you sure there was an underbidder.

If there wasn't one ... I'm sure there are probably already some people claiming that they were.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

If there wasn't one ... I'm sure there are probably already some people claiming that they were.

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

If there wasn't one ... I'm sure there are probably already some people claiming that they were.

We have a guy in California that claims he was the underbidder on virtually every horse that accomplishes anything.

Seems fantastic to me but he insists it's true.

Question: If you're that smart why wouldn't you be smart enough to be just a tiny bit smarter?

[tector]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Question: If you're that smart why wouldn't you be smart enough to be just a tiny bit smarter?

Nebuchadnezzar

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by tector

Nebuchadnezzar

I don't get the reference.

That does remind me though of a time I caught a California King snake when I was twelve years old. He was a big one, and when I caught him, he bit me, the only time I've ever been bit by a King snake.

I decided to name him Nebuchadnezzar.

Two days later he laid six eggs.

[tector]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I don't get the reference.

It was for Vic only.

[clambeau]

Triple Crown Winner this year....go 'head laugh

[Linny]

Very solid work for a horse not bred to be a freakish 2yo. His success at 2 in spite of the breeding indicates quality. He had (and has still) a very smooth efficient stride. The pedigree is very deep with stamina yet he shows high quality speed, presumably from the Distorted Humor on top.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Linny

Very solid work for a horse not bred to be a freakish 2yo. His success at 2 in spite of the breeding indicates quality. He had (and has still) a very smooth efficient stride. The pedigree is very deep with stamina yet he shows high quality speed, presumably from the Distorted Humor on top.

Arch had high quality speed and I'll Have Another's dam won her only start wire-to-wire.

As for juvenile success, 8 of the 12 horses in the first two generations won at least one race at 2. 5 of those 8 were stakes performers. 4 of those 5 were stakes winners. 3 of those 4 were graded stakes winners. 2 of those 3 were Grade or Group 1 winners. 1 of those 2 was a Eclipse champion 2yo.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Arch had high quality speed and I'll Have Another's dam won her only start wire-to-wire.

As for juvenile success, 8 of the 12 horses in the first two generations won at least one race at 2. 5 of those 8 were stakes performers. 4 of those 5 were stakes winners. 3 of those 4 were graded stakes winners. 2 of those 3 were Grade or Group 1 winners. 1 of those 2 was a Eclipse champion 2yo.

Rollo, what do you mean exactly by the bolded part? Twelve horses in the first two generations?? Shouldn't that number be six?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Rollo, what do you mean exactly by the bolded part? Twelve horses in the first two generations?? Shouldn't that number be six?

Yeah, I misworded it. I was only referring to the 2nd and 3rd generations, leaving out the first. I got confused because I was focusing on Arch at the beginning of my post. Sorry.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by tector

Nebuchadnezzar

This brought back odd bible class memories...

[NTamm1215]

Oh my.

http://www.xpressbet.com/ReadPostTime?id=4008

[The Bid]

C'mon

[GPK]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Oh my.

http://www.xpressbet.com/ReadPostTime?id=4008

Puff - Puff - Give, Jon. Puff - Puff - Give.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Oh my.

http://www.xpressbet.com/ReadPostTime?id=4008

>>>But win or lose, I am backing my Triple Crown prediction with some of the money I collected for having bet on I’ll Have Another at 23-1 in Kentucky Derby Future Wager Pool Two. I am playing “yes” in the Triple Crown proposition wager offered by the Wynn Hotel Race & Sports Book in Las Vegas. “Yes” is plus 700, meaning you have to wager $70 to make $10. “No” is minus 1,000, meaning you have to wager $100 to make $10.<<<

I don't think he meant to say this, did he? I don't bet sports, honestly have no idea but I would think plus 700 means you get 7-1, which is a horrible sucker bet in my mind.

[slotdirt]

Pioneerofthe Nile, anyone?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Oh my.

http://www.xpressbet.com/ReadPostTime?id=4008

Probably better off wagering him to just win the Preakness at what will likely be half the 7-1 he is getting on the impossible.