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MaTH716 · #81 12-09-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Why do people who criticized his play as an NFL QB look like idiots now? Because the Broncos are 7-5 in the 2nd worst divison in the NFL?

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

there is something incorrect in this post. they are tied for 1st in the division and own the tie braker

He didn't say that they were in second, Hossy stated that it's the second worst divison in the league.

Antitrust32 · #82 12-09-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Once again, other than beating the Jets in an impossible situation for them:

Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10
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This is the most overrated statement that people bring up in an attempt to discredit Tebow.

a win is a win in the NFL. and its especially difficult on the road. any team has the capability to be competitive on any sunday (except the colts). the vikings played one of their best games of the season against Tebow and the Broncos still won on the road.

Antitrust32 · #83 12-09-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

He didn't say that they were in second, Hossy stated that it's the second worst divison in the league.

good point. i take that back!

though there is something incorrect. he was referencing Tebow critics. Tebow is 6-1, not 7-5. You certainly can't pin the 1-4 start on Tebow.

RockHardTen1985 · #84 12-09-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Thanks for handling that one.

Hes wrong about the Texans, not really sure what hes being thanked for. Not that it would matter for a first round game anyway because if they are both in the playoffs they are likely division winners. The Texans have a rookie QB. A great RB and great D. Denver plays D and would make the Texans 1 dimensional. Denver would have a huge chance to beat them in Denver.

MaTH716 · #85 12-09-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

good point. i take that back!

though there is something incorrect. he was referencing Tebow critics. Tebow is 6-1, not 7-5. You certainly can't pin the 1-4 start on Tebow.

For Broncos/Tebows fans it is nothing more than a freeroll right now. Regardless of what happens they believe (and rightfully so) that their season is a sucess no matter what. Playoffs weren't even in their vocabulary at the begining of the season and amazingly they still have a chance to get in. For the critics, it more about Tebow's individual performance and more importantly the playoffs, so until Timmy gets them there/wins a playoff game, the critics will pretty much consider it a failed expierment.

MaTH716 · #86 12-09-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Hes wrong about the Texans, not really sure what hes being thanked for. Not that it would matter for a first round game anyway because if they are both in the playoffs they are likely division winners. The Texans have a rookie QB. A great RB and great D. Denver plays D and would make the Texans 1 dimensional. Denver would have a huge chance to beat them in Denver.

Maybe, but they would need a miracle to end up playing anything more than one playoff game at home.

RockHardTen1985 · #87 12-09-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Maybe, but they would need a miracle to end up playing anything more than one playoff game at home.

I know, the point is really moot. For anyone to say the Texans would destroy them is just silly. I think Denver would get beat by New England, Baltimore and I guess Pittsburg, even though I dont like Pittsburg this year. Anyone else Denver can beat. Not really because of Tebow, but that defense has been awesome.

Clip-Clop · #88 12-09-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Maybe, but they would need a miracle to end up playing anything more than one playoff game at home.

Winning more than 6 games this year was going to be considered a 'miracle'. Playing a playoff game, 3 or 4 miracles minimum. Playing a HOME playoff game, out of the question.
All of these are now possible at least partially because of the QB switch.
It is fun, enjoy it, you would if you lived here. This has been one sad football town for many years.

MaTH716 · #89 12-09-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Winning more than 6 games this year was going to be considered a 'miracle'. Playing a playoff game, 3 or 4 miracles minimum. Playing a HOME playoff game, out of the question.
All of these are now possible at least partially because of the QB switch.
It is fun, enjoy it, you would if you lived here. This has been one sad football town for many years.

I kind of figured that if they made the playoffs, it would have to be as a divison winner ensuring a home game.

Like I said in the other post, Broncos fans are probably just ecstatic to still be in the race this late in the season.

NTamm1215 · #90 12-09-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I know, the point is really moot. For anyone to say the Texans would destroy them is just silly. I think Denver would get beat by New England, Baltimore and I guess Pittsburg, even though I dont like Pittsburg this year. Anyone else Denver can beat. Not really because of Tebow, but that defense has been awesome.

The defense that just made Christian Ponder look like Dan Marino? They gave up nearly 500 yards to Minnesota. What good offenses did they shut down in the prior games during their winning streak?

Since Week 2 the Texans have allowed one 100 yd rusher, Ray Rice, who got 101 in a Week 6 win. During that span the Texans have shut down Maurice Jones-Drew twice, Chris Johnson, LaGarrette Blount, and Michael Turner. Stack that on top of allowing Darren McFadden 51 yds rushing in Week 5 and Rashard Mendenhall 25 yds in Week 4.

So, Denver would beat Houston throwing the ball? Teams facing the Texans have completed 49.8% of their passes, the next lowest percentage is Oakland allowing 52.3%. They've allowed the fewest passing yards, are tied for the 2nd highest amount of interceptions and opposing QBs have a passer rating of 60.7 against them.

So St. Timmy is going to torch them through the air? The Minnesota defense he played last week is awful and that made him look good. They also focused all of their attention on Eric Decker and allowed Demaryius Thomas, who had been non-existent in the Broncos offense to get free for a few big gains.

The Texans would beat Denver by at least 10 no matter where the game is played with TJ Yates, Jake Delhomme, Jeff Garcia, or the three of them platooning.

RockHardTen1985 · #91 12-09-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The defense that just made Christian Ponder look like Dan Marino? They gave up nearly 500 yards to Minnesota. What good offenses did they shut down in the prior games during their winning streak?

Since Week 2 the Texans have allowed one 100 yd rusher, Ray Rice, who got 101 in a Week 6 win. During that span the Texans have shut down Maurice Jones-Drew twice, Chris Johnson, LaGarrette Blount, and Michael Turner. Stack that on top of allowing Darren McFadden 51 yds rushing in Week 5 and Rashard Mendenhall 25 yds in Week 4.

So, Denver would beat Houston throwing the ball? Teams facing the Texans have completed 49.8% of their passes, the next lowest percentage is Oakland allowing 52.3%. They've allowed the fewest passing yards, are tied for the 2nd highest amount of interceptions and opposing QBs have a passer rating of 60.7 against them.

So St. Timmy is going to torch them through the air? The Minnesota defense he played last week is awful and that made him look good. They also focused all of their attention on Eric Decker and allowed Demaryius Thomas, who had been non-existent in the Broncos offense to get free for a few big gains.

The Texans would beat Denver by at least 10 no matter where the game is played with TJ Yates, Jake Delhomme, Jeff Garcia, or the three of them platooning.

Everything you say is correct, but playoff football is mostly won by D and the QB. I would give the slight advantage to Denver. The Texans are 1 and done anyway, Pittsburg or Baltimore will beat them in the first round. Maybe they get lucky and draw the Jets. They will win that, then go lose at New England or Pitt or Baltimore. Whoever has the other bye.

MaTH716 · #92 12-09-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Everything you say is correct, but playoff football is mostly won by D and the QB. I would give the slight advantage to Denver. The Texans are 1 and done anyway, Pittsburg or Baltimore will beat them in the first round. Maybe they get lucky and draw the Jets. They will win that, then go lose at New England or Pitt or Baltimore. Whoever has the other bye.

Who are you giving them the advantage over at the QB position?

RockHardTen1985 · #93 12-09-2011, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Who are you giving them the advantage over at the QB position?

TJ Yates, no?

MaTH716 · #94 12-09-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

TJ Yates, no?

Wasn't sure if you were just talking about the Texans.

RockHardTen1985 · #95 12-09-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Wasn't sure if you were just talking about the Texans.

I dont think Denver can beat the Pats or Ravens. In Denver, maybe they can beat Pittsburg. Anyone else I think they can beat home or road.

ateamstupid · #96 12-09-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

YEs, about the Raiders, but not the Jets. I'm not really very smart as all of you know. ANd your point about the Chiefs was good too, although I think them missing their star running back pretty much all year hasn't helped them either though even with him I think they struggle all year. I suppose I could use the excuse the Browns lost because they had a game 4 days earlier and had to travel to Pittsburgh but maybe that's not big enough travel?? No, I do not buy the Jets had a game 4 days earlier excuse or that they had to get on a plane.

Putting aside the fact that the Jets were coming off their most devastating loss in the Rex era:

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It’s time the NFL addresses the competitive disadvantage of teams making cross-country trips on short weeks. In the last 15 years there have been 13 instances where clubs that played Sunday traveled 1,500 miles or more for a Thursday night game. All 13 lost. That’s not a coincidence. It’s a trend. This year that group includes San Francisco, the Jets and Philadelphia, and enough’s enough. Level the playing field and stop this stupid practice.

0-13. Oh and Thirteen.

Clip-Clop · #97 12-09-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Putting aside the fact that the Jets were coming off their most devastating loss in the Rex era:

0-13. Oh and Thirteen.

Those damn Rockies...

Nevermind, same side.

ateamstupid · #98 12-09-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Those damn Rockies...

Nevermind, same side.

Durr hurr.

Clip-Clop · #99 12-09-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Durr hurr.

Everyone is beating them up over who they have beaten and how... has everyone forgotten they were the 2nd worst team in the league last year? Of course their schedule is weak. Aside from them playing the best and second best divisions in football from both conferences as their out of division opponents.

Clip-Clop · #**100** 12-09-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I dont think Denver can beat the Pats or Ravens. In Denver, maybe they can beat Pittsburg. Anyone else I think they can beat home or road.

If they do happen to beat New England next week it will be only because "the Pats D is injured" or "they are the worst Pats team for years" all while the Pats keep winning and winning...