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Old 04-27-2011, 07:53 PM
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:54 PM
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Off the top of my head I know he finished last with Monba, Graeme Hall (who displaced I think), Cowtown Rat, I think Keyed Entry, and I can't remember the other.
I think the Derby bet I'm probably most ashamed of is Monba.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:58 PM
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I think the Derby bet I'm probably most ashamed of is Monba.
If I saw Brancusi, I would not offer him a peppermint. Horrific pick.
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:25 PM
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I hate him in this race, I'm glad he is loved.
What is there not to like...?
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:26 PM
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What is there not to like...?
I will post my Derby breakdown with explanation when the posts are out.
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:41 PM
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:45 PM
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I will post my Derby breakdown with explanation when the posts are out.
Why wait? You were quick to say you hate him, insights please?
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:23 PM
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27 posts in and not one mention of freaking Dunkirk.
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:37 PM
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thanks. that's one i bet on.

on the bright side he finally got me off closer's that galloped out well after the finish.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:59 PM
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I can't remember, did Dollar Bill qualify? I thought folks were saying that if DB could ever get a good trip in a race, he'd get it done. Wasn't he always in a position of having bad luck? We're not the only ones trying to keep up with the wise guy horses:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/05/sp.../05racing.html Apparently Tapit and Noble Causeway joined Ten Most Wanted and Saarland as wise guy horses. This article mentions Sweetnorthernsaint as the latest that year, and Trombetta's not enthused.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4116598 ESPN tried to say Chocolate Candy, Desert Party, Friesan Fire, and (one I'm not on board with) Pioneerof the Nile. That last one's hardly wise guy. Chocolate Candy though was definitely one I heard from some folks.
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Old 04-27-2011, 11:12 PM
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Why wait? You were quick to say you hate him, insights please?
He's had two great set ups in a row and has failed to get it done.

That said, he does appear to me at least to be one of the horses capable of winning and I'll be using him on most of my tickets.
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Old 04-28-2011, 12:35 AM
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This would make a great article for Jon White at XpressBet. He is a historian and I am sure he can recall all the wise guy horses off the top of his head in the last 30 years of the Kentucky Derby. Great thread - I really hope there is a list out there somewhere with the answer to this.
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Old 04-28-2011, 01:01 AM
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Can't remember, did Wilko run in the Derby?
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Old 04-28-2011, 02:02 AM
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Can't remember, did Wilko run in the Derby?
Yup. When I googled to make sure my brain wasn't playing tricks on me and that he hadn't declared due to injury or something, I found this interesting passage: http://bit.ly/j3QVGM It sounds like he helped Giacomo out a bit by accident. Read on past the mention of Wilko to the fun chaos caused by John Shirreffs never having won the race before. I bet someone at NBC was pulling their hair out trying to find the Derby winning trainer for the trophy presentation. Well, where else is he gonna be but where he always goes after a race? The barn, naturally.
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Old 04-28-2011, 06:28 AM
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Off the top of my head I know he finished last with Monba, Graeme Hall (who displaced I think), Cowtown Rat, I think Keyed Entry, and I can't remember the other.
Wild Horses in '02
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Old 04-28-2011, 06:52 AM
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:01 AM
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27 posts in and not one mention of freaking Dunkirk.
Wasn't he running in 5k claimers @ Suffolk Downs last year?
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:48 AM
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I can't remember, did Dollar Bill qualify? I thought folks were saying that if DB could ever get a good trip in a race, he'd get it done. Wasn't he always in a position of having bad luck? We're not the only ones trying to keep up with the wise guy horses:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/05/sp.../05racing.html Apparently Tapit and Noble Causeway joined Ten Most Wanted and Saarland as wise guy horses. This article mentions Sweetnorthernsaint as the latest that year, and Trombetta's not enthused.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4116598 ESPN tried to say Chocolate Candy, Desert Party, Friesan Fire, and (one I'm not on board with) Pioneerof the Nile. That last one's hardly wise guy. Chocolate Candy though was definitely one I heard from some folks.
This is exactly who came to my mind..............he was that closer that would fly by everybody the longer they went.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:51 AM
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At the racetrack, wise guys are smart. There's a misunderstanding.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:57 AM
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Wasn't he running in 5k claimers @ Suffolk Downs last year?

I believe he is standing stud at Ashford Stud in Kentucky.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunkirk_%28horse%29
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