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[Dahoss]

Would Randy Moss be considered a misfit?

[clyde]

Well there goes another thread.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Would Randy Moss be considered a misfit?

My favorite part was where he said he wasn't taking shots at anyone and was trying to be impartial, then went on about a bunch of s h i t that was unrelated to the beatdown his team got on Sunday. He still has no answers for that, predictably.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What about Sunday's game could've possibly left you thinking that the Jets aren't better than the Pats? Everybody you named except Holmes took giant dumps on the Pats Sunday. This was not a fluke.

Pats are horrible on the road. No one can argue that. Facts are facts you have a team of misfits with a loud mouth coach. We have likely the best coach, QB, and receive in the league. We will see later on, Im very confident Pats win the division, and have a decent future wager to show for it.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Would Randy Moss be considered a misfit?

Not at all, and anyone who thinks this is crazy. Anyone is going to mess up in Oakland. The guy is one of the, if not the best wide out ever.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by clyde

Well there goes another thread.

It's really becoming an issue. He's an arsonist.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

My favorite part was where he said he wasn't taking shots at anyone and was trying to be impartial, then went on about a bunch of s h i t that was unrelated to the beatdown his team got on Sunday. He still has no answers for that, predictably.

I was going to answer you, then you called me fat and continued insulting.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Pats are horrible on the road. No one can argue that. Facts are facts you have a team of misfits with a loud mouth coach. We have likely the best coach, QB, and receive in the league. We will see later on, Im very confident Pats win the division, and have a decent future wager to show for it.

Those misfits and coach crapped on your team. Thoroughly. Three people aren't going to save that joke of a running game and laughable defense, and you know it.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Pats are horrible on the road. No one can argue that. Facts are facts you have a team of misfits with a loud mouth coach. We have likely the best coach, QB, and receive in the league. We will see later on, Im very confident Pats win the division, and have a decent future wager to show for it.

Looks like you got 2 right.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I was going to answer you, then you called me fat and continued insulting.

As opposed to your conduct throughout that thread, right? You didn't egg anyone on and have A LOT coming to you, right? You've had tons of chances to answer for that asskicking and you haven't. You have nothing to say anymore. It's delicious.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I was asking him because not once in the rant did he mention Edwards guilt in the situation.

It's obvious that he's guilty of driving drunk. We don't know how many sober people were stopped by cops using tint as an excuse to harass minorities driving in SUV's at the wrong time of the day. How many of them have to be needlessly harassed in order to fish for one guy with drugs or alcohol? I said, if they'd have been more patient, they could of probably stopped him for the right reason. They could probably of caught him driving wrecklessly, but they couldn't wait to stop a brother in an SUV at 5 in the morning.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

As opposed to your conduct throughout that thread, right? You didn't egg anyone on and have A LOT coming to you, right? You've had tons of chances to answer for that asskicking and you haven't. You have nothing to say anymore. It's delicious.

I do egg people on, all the time. I say **** and Im annoying. I dont insult peoples weight or anything else like that.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I do egg people on, all the time. I say **** and Im annoying. I dont insult peoples weight or anything else like that.

Got it, so you want carte blanche to be as annoying and provoking as possible, but you also want to cry when people take digs at you back. You still have nothing to say about the game you talked so much about before and during, that's all this is.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Not at all, and anyone who thinks this is crazy. Anyone is going to mess up in Oakland. The guy is one of the, if not the best wide out ever.

Here is a list of Randy Moss's off field issues.


Marshall plane crash
In a 1997 Sports Illustrated article, when discussing the 1970 Marshall plane crash, Randy Moss was quoted as saying, "The plane crash was before my time. I don't try to go back in the past and say this football game is for the people in the plane crash. I've seen the burial ground. I went up there and looked at the names. It was a tragedy, but it really wasn't nothing big." Moss claimed that the quote was taken out of context.

Traffic incident
On September 24, 2002 in downtown Minneapolis, Minnesota, Moss was driving and was preparing to make an illegal turn. A traffic control officer, noticing what he was about to do, stood in front of his car, ordering him to stop. Eyewitness accounts of the event differ at this point, but Moss did not comply with the officer's order, and she was bumped by his vehicle and fell to the ground. Moss was arrested, and a search of his vehicle revealed a small amount of marijuana. Initially charged with felony Suspicion of Assault with a Deadly Weapon and a misdemeanor marijuana possession, Moss pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor traffic violation and was ordered to pay a $1,200 fine and perform 40 hours of community service.

Leaving the field during a game
During the last game of the 2004 regular season against the Washington Redskins and with two seconds remaining on the game clock, Moss walked off the field and into the locker room; critics criticized Moss for quitting on his team.Moss stated afterward that he didn’t think Minnesota, who ended up losing 21-18 to Washington, would recover the onside kick.

Playoff mooning incident
On January 9, 2005, the Minnesota Vikings traveled to division rival Green Bay to take on the heavily favored Packers in an NFC wildcard playoff game. Moss finished the game with 4 catches for 70 yards and two touchdowns in the 31-17 win. After the second score, Moss trotted to the end zone goalpost and, facing away from the crowd, feigned pulling down his pants to moon the Green Bay fans. TV announcer Joe Buck, calling the game, was incensed, calling it "a disgusting act" on-air. Days later, the NFL fined him $10,000, finding it "unsportsmanlike" and "offensive" during the playoffs. However, then-Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy, the former Vikings defensive coordinator, explained Moss' action by pointing out that Packers fans are infamous for actually mooning the buses of departing opponents after a loss, unlike Moss' fully-clothed imitation.

Marijuana use
In April 1996, Randy Moss smoked a joint just prior to turning himself in to jail. He was scheduled to finish the remainder of his 30 day sentence for misdemeanor battery while in high school. During his first week in jail, Moss was given a drug test that came back positive. He was placed in solitary confinement for a week and had 60 days attached to his 27 day sentence. Bobby Bowden revoked his scholarship and Moss was dismissed from Florida State University for the failed drug test.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reported that Moss tested positive in 2001 for marijuana under the NFL's substance abuse program and was subject to additional random drug screening for two years. A first time violation of the NFL's drug policy can result in up to 10 tests per month. Moss has not failed an NFL drug test since, and was rotated out of the program after two years.

On September 24, 2002, Moss was involved in a traffic accident in downtown Minneapolis. The accident occurred when he tried to make an illegal U-Turn and slightly injured a traffic officer who stepped in front of his car. According to the police report, Officer Amy Zaccardi tried to order Moss to pull his 2002 Lexus over. When police searched his vehicle, they found a joint amounting to less than a gram in his ashtray. He was initially charged with two misdemeanors, one for careless driving and another for failing to obey a police officer. Moss spent the night in jail and was released the following morning. A week later, prosecutors added a charge of misdemeanor marijuana possession, which carried a fine of up to $200. Moss claimed that the joint was not his, and that he had let friends use his car prior to the accident.
In August 2005, during an interview with Bryant Gumbel, Moss admitted that he has smoked marijuana during his NFL career "every blue moon." When asked whether he still used marijuana currently, Moss replied "I might. I might have fun. And, you know, hopefully ... I won't get into any trouble by the NFL by saying that, you know. I have had fun throughout my years and, you know, predominantly in the offseason." The interview drew criticism from the league office, and his agent tried to spin it that his words were taken out of context. In response, Moss said "That was really me talking in the past tense of way back in the beginning of my career and my childhood -- especially in high school and college."

Lack of effort
On November 14, 2006, Moss was honored for his success in college as a kick returner by having an award named after him, becoming only one of two black athletes (along with John Mackey) so honored. During the press conference, Moss responded to questions about his dropped passes and lackluster effort in several games, saying "Maybe because I'm unhappy and I'm not too much excited about what's going on, so, my concentration and focus level tend to go down sometimes when I'm in a bad mood." Days later, he reiterated his unhappiness with losing games and being a member of the Raiders on his weekly segment with Fox Sports Radio, saying, "I might want to look forward to moving somewhere else next year to have another start and really feel good about going out here and playing football."

On May 15, 2007, more than two weeks after the trade to New England, Moss was called out by his former Raiders coaches. His former offensive coordinator, Tom Walsh, who was fired from the Raiders after Oakland's 2–14 losing season, said of Moss, "Randy Moss is a player whose skills are diminishing, and he's in denial of those eroding skills...Randy was a great receiver, but he lacked the work ethic and the desire to cultivate any skills that would compensate for what he was losing physically later in his career." Walsh also reported that Moss told him, "'I'm too old to practice on Wednesday and Thursday, but I'm not too old to play on Sunday.'"However, Moss stated the losing seasons on the Oakland Raiders negatively affected his playing and discouraged him during the team's practice: "...Losing sometimes can get contagious, but as a player I can't let that settle in, and I think that's one of the things that bothered me [in Oakland]. I didn't want it to set in and it didn't set in. It was just really nerve-racking that it was hard for me to win."

In 2009, after a 20-10 win over the Carolina Panthers, Panthers cornerback Chris Gamble and safety Chris Harris accused Moss of giving up during the game. Gamble claimed Moss "gives up a lot" and that he "laid it down during the game", while Harris said "[Moss] kind of doesn't run the routes the way they're supposed to be run. If you get a jam on him, he'll ease up. ... If he can't get it going, he gets out of sync."Moss caught 1 pass for 16 yards, fumbled the ball once, and dropped a pass, as well as had a ball thrown at him picked off during the game. In response, Bill Belichick stated, "My response would be that's a lot of conversation coming from a team that just lost another game." Tom Brady noted that Gamble had many plays made on him as well.

Dating violence allegations
On January 15, 2008, Orlando-based radio station WDBO reported that Moss "ha[d] been hit with a temporary injunction for protection against dating violence. According to the affidavit Moss committed a battery upon Rachelle Washington,[60] causing serious injury, and then refused to allow her to seek medical attention. The affidavit out of Broward County reveals Moss cannot come within 500 feet of the victim and cannot use or possess firearms."

The next day, in a locker room press conference, Moss claimed the woman was simply looking for money "over an accident," because her lawyer came to his lawyer, threatening a lawsuit, and asking for money to settle before she went public to the media. Moss stated he had known Washington for about eleven years. He also stated in his defense that he has never assaulted a woman in his entire life, and asked that the media and fans "find out the facts" before "rush[ing] to judgment." Moreover, Moss' lawyer, in an e-mail to the Boston Globe accused the woman's lawyer of "blatant threats and attempts to extort money" from Moss. On March 3, 2008, Rachelle Washington filed papers with the Broward County Circuit Court clerk's office requesting that the restraining order be dissolved and the case closed. No criminal charges were ever filed in the incident.

Some of the stuff is bogus. I could care less if he smokes blunts all day and the mooning was hilarious. But that is an awful lot of controversy for someone not considered a misfit.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Regardless of how you feel about tints, in NY you are not allowed to have them as dark as Edwards had them allegedly. It's not like he didn't know this. Let's not pretend people get tints for privacy. They get them for vanity.

So, if your car has tints that are too dark, don't be surprised if you get pulled over. It might be a stupid law, but just because a law is stupid doesn't mean it's okay to break it.

I want to vote on it. It's an invasion of privacy, and it's used by cops to racial profile. He was wrong for being drunk, but I want a white guy (in an SUV with tints ) to have the same chance of getting stopped. I do not believe it's the same chance. I'll tell you what is a danger to drive with, and that's driving while being in a phone conversation. That's a legit issue. Tinting is a b.s. reason to be stopping people.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Got it, so you want carte blanche to be as annoying and provoking as possible, but you also want to cry when people take digs at you back. You still have nothing to say about the game you talked so much about before and during, that's all this is.

I told you the Pats sucked and the Jets and Sanchez played well. You responded by calling me fat and asked for more.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I want to vote on it. It's an invasion of privacy, and it's used by cops to racial profile. He was wrong for being drunk, but I want a white guy (in an SUV with tints ) to have the same chance of getting stopped. I do not believe it's the same chance.

You don't seem to get it. Having the tints that dark is illegal. It doesn't matter if the person driving the car is black, white or green.

Is it a bulls.hit law? Probably, but it's the law. I don't agree with it, but it is what it is.

I think weed should be legal. But it isn't. So if I get caught with it, it's my fault.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I told you the Pats sucked and the Jets and Sanchez played well. You responded by calling me fat and asked for more.

This is false. Here's what I said:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

No, no, that won't do at all. Don't brush this aside after all the shi t you talked. I want detailed analysis. What happened to Moss in the second half? And Brady for that matter? How come they couldn't stop anything the horrible Jets offense did? Will the Pats ever have a running game again? I need answers you sweaty loudmouth.

You continue to brush it aside despite everything you've said all preseason and season. If the Pats had won, you would never have stopped going on about it. But they didn't. They got fisted. And now you want everyone to forget about it by feigning disgust and concern at the "misfits" the Jets have. Nobody's buying it.

Also note that you still haven't answered those questions I asked you.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

This is false. Here's what I said:



You continue to brush it aside despite everything you've said all preseason and season. If the Pats had won, you would never have stopped going on about it. But they didn't. They got fisted. And now you want everyone to forget about it by feigning disgust and concern at the "misfits" the Jets have. Nobody's buying it.

Also note that you still haven't answered those questions I asked you.

What am I brushing aside? Your the one who seems to want to continue this. I said the Pats SUCKED. What else do you want me to say? Like I asked you yesterday and the you responded with calling me fat.

[Dahoss]

Is Randy Moss a misfit?