Biancone Returns to New York

[Antitrust32]

If I was a horse owner I'd be embarrassed to have horses with him. I would train my own horses before he got his hands on him. Its an embarrassment to the game that he's allowed to train again.

[CSC]

I think there are plenty of cheaters in all sports, I don't see why Biancone should be vilified more than the others. He's no worse than a Roger Clemons, Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong, Manny and Ortiz...the vast majority of the supposed greatest atheletes are all on something that it doesn't even raise an eyebrow with me anymore.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by CSC

I think there are plenty of cheaters in all sports, I don't see why Biancone should be vilified more than the others. He's no worse than a Roger Clemons, Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong, Manny and Ortiz...the vast majority of the supposed greatest atheletes are all on something that it doesn't even raise an eyebrow with me anymore.

Oh yea injecting cobra venom to block pain so a horse can basically break its freaking leg and not feel it is the same as putting a needle in your OWN ass so you can hit a baseball farther.

Biancone risked the health of defenseless animals. He's a lot closer to Vick & Paragallo than Clemons, Jones, Armstrong, Manny and Ortiz.

Biancone and his old vet should not be around horses. He's a scumbag.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

PANTS HITS A HOMER AGAIN!!

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Oh yea injecting cobra venom to block pain so a horse can basically break its freaking leg and not feel it is the same as putting a needle in your OWN ass so you can hit a baseball farther.

Biancone risked the health of defenseless animals.

And let's not forget the riders of the other horses in those races.

[CSC]

[quote=Antitrust32]Oh yea injecting cobra venom to block pain so a horse can basically break its freaking leg and not feel it is the same as putting a needle in your OWN ass so you can hit a baseball farther.

QUOTE]

This is a very broad statement, there are some drugs such as EPO or HGH that improve muscle mass or that enhances oxygen to the blood vessles. I'm not sure I would compare Biancone to a Mark Shulman when he had the Gill stable, I'm simply saying drugs are a part of sport and I am not certainly not astonished anymore when these things are reported. Judging by how many second and third chances many of these high profile offenders have had, various administrations seem to be taking the apathetic viewpoint also.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

And let's not forget the riders of the other horses in those races.

Just to play the devil's advocate, couldn't a horse breakdown if they were clean? Horseracing is a risky sport healthwise anyway you want to view it.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by CSC

Just to play the devil's advocate, couldn't a horse breakdown if they were clean? Horseracing is a risky sport healthwise anyway you want to view it.

Without question, but injecting a horse with cobra venom is certainly increasing the chance of a breakdown. In doing so, he's showing direct disdain for the health of his horse and rider, and indirectly for the other riders and horses in the race.

[Wayne Bertrand]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

From today's Saratogian:

http://www.saratogian.com/articles/2...2641069026.txt

Lieutenant Frank Drebin also reported that Biancone suspension was one of those " MLB Steve Howe type of suspensions "

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Wayne Bertrand

Lieutenant Frank Drebin also reported that Biancone suspension was one of those " MLB Steve Howe type of suspensions "

He's always sharp as a tack:

Frank: I want answers Cherrycakes.
Tanya: I love you
Frank: Wrong answer. I dropped out of the sap of the month club a long time ago. Now you've got one more chance Angel Drawers-and not one of those major league baseball Steve Howe kind of last chances either.

[Antitrust32]

[quote=CSC]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Oh yea injecting cobra venom to block pain so a horse can basically break its freaking leg and not feel it is the same as putting a needle in your OWN ass so you can hit a baseball farther.

QUOTE]

This is a very broad statement, there are some drugs such as EPO or HGH that improve muscle mass or that enhances oxygen to the blood vessles. I'm not sure I would compare Biancone to a Mark Shulman when he had the Gill stable, I'm simply saying drugs are a part of sport and I am not certainly not astonished anymore when these things are reported. Judging by how many second and third chances many of these high profile offenders have had, various administrations seem to be taking the apathetic viewpoint also.

I wasnt talking about EPO, HGH... was talking about Biancone and COBRA VENOM. thats why he was suspended... COBRA VENOM!!! the vet and Biancone are exactly on the same level as Shulman and Gill...

makes the horse feel no pain at all. Its very dangerous. Its not fun to see a horse trying to still run with his leg flopping around because its broke and the horse doesnt know it.

I would have much rather him being caught milkshaking or with HGH.. and thats a sad statement.

[kgar311]

[quote=Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by CSC

I wasnt talking about EPO, HGH... was talking about Biancone and COBRA VENOM. thats why he was suspended... COBRA VENOM!!! the vet and Biancone are exactly on the same level as Shulman and Gill...

makes the horse feel no pain at all. Its very dangerous. Its not fun to see a horse trying to still run with his leg flopping around because its broke and the horse doesnt know it.

I would have much rather him being caught milkshaking or with HGH.. and thats a sad statement.

I dont think CSC understands how dangerous snake venom is, its possibly the worst thing you can give to a horse. You might as well have the horse nerved, its the same difference. Were not talking about putting a horse at risk for its future, were talking about putting 9 other horses and all jockey's in that race at risk of death. Putting a horse with no feeling in their legs on the track is just plain EVIL.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Without question, but injecting a horse with cobra venom is certainly increasing the chance of a breakdown. In doing so, he's showing direct disdain for the health of his horse and rider, and indirectly for the other riders and horses in the race.

No one was convicted of INJECTING this in a horse.It was found in a refrigerator in his office,and it belonged to the Vet.You guys have no proof whatsoever that Biancone or the vet ever used this on a horse.You are just ASS-UMING!

[RockHardTen1985]

He did his time, I wish he would bring all of his horses back to NY and have Julian be his go to rider again. Those were the days.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He did his time, I wish he would bring all of his horses back to NY and have Julian be his go to rider again. Those were the days.

Agreed.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

No one was convicted of INJECTING this in a horse.It was found in a refrigerator in his office,and it belonged to the Vet.You guys have no proof whatsoever that Biancone or the vet ever used this on a horse.You are just ASS-UMING!

I guess but if you had a bullet to your head which way are you going?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I guess but if you had a bullet to your head which way are you going?

I would say, fine he did it, but has now served his time and should be allowed to train.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I would say, fine he did it, but has now served his time and should be allowed to train.

Agreed

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I would say, fine he did it, but has now served his time and should be allowed to train.

I wouldn't say he did it,but it is over,he did time,and life goes on.He should be allowed to train away.