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Old 11-24-2008, 10:06 AM
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11th (4:24) Falls City H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Brownie Points Quinonez L S 119 L
2 Tiz to Dream Baird E T 112 LA
3 Tell It as It Is Wilson E 115 LA
4 Miss Isella Borel C H 111 LA
5 Swift Temper Desormeaux K J 116 LA
6 Skylighter Leparoux J R 115 L
7 Stop a Train Compton P 117 LA
8 Spring Waltz Albarado R J 120 LA
9 Devil House Castanon J L 115 L
10 Initforthekandy McKee J 114 LA
11 Unforgotten Mena M 117 LA
12 Copper State Bridgmohan S X 116 LA
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:03 AM
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:49 PM
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11th (4:29) Clark H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Delightful Kiss Borel C H 116 L
2 Magna Graduate Bridgmohan S X 120 LA
3 Einstein (BRZ) Leparoux J R 119 LA
4 Commentator Velazquez J R 124 LA
5 Anak Nakal Castanon J L 118 LA
6 Timber Reserve Desormeaux K J 116 LA
7 Wayzata Bay Ocampo I 117 LA
8 Dominican Albarado R J 115 LA
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:51 PM
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I guess Timber Reserve got just what they wanted out of his prep at Aqueduct the other day.
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Old 11-25-2008, 03:16 PM
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Old 11-25-2008, 05:54 PM
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I guess Timber Reserve got just what they wanted out of his prep at Aqueduct the other day.
Yeah, he really looked great. He broke like a debuting 2yo quarter horse starting on the rail.
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Old 11-27-2008, 10:25 PM
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Timber Reserve is a SCRATCH from the Clark..
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:33 AM
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Betting to Show is like kissing your brother...
Betting to win is like kissing your step sister.
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Old 11-29-2008, 09:17 AM
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Commentator looked one week short to me.
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Old 11-29-2008, 10:54 AM
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Commentator looked one week short to me.
You must have been chomping at the bit for weeks to use that one!
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:31 PM
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Commentator showed the heart of a lion once again. It's good to see him back burning $$.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:11 PM
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Commentator looked one week short to me.
That is pretty funny
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:30 PM
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Commentator showed the heart of a lion once again. It's good to see him back burning $$.

I'm a little slow, so please try to explain this carefully, but how exactly is a horse that is 13 for 21, and has returned $2.88 for every $2 wagered on him over his career, considered a money burner?

But, belated congrats for picking Einstein, and against Commentator, as even though I missed your pre-race post, I'm sure it's somewhere on this board. Please link me to it.
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:32 PM
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I'm a little slow, so please try to explain this carefully, but how exactly is a horse that is 13 for 21, and has returned $2.88 for every $2 wagered on him over his career, considered a money burner?

But, belated congrats for picking Einstein, and against Commentator, as even though I missed your pre-race post, I'm sure it's somewhere on this board. Please link me to it.
Please tell me that you don't go THIS in depth on specific horses and you pulled his PP and figured out the math. That is a SERIOUS stat right there.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:03 AM
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Money Burning:

2008 Clark, 2-5 favorite, finishes 3rd.
2008 Met Mile, 6-5 favorite, finishes 2nd(though I thought this was his best effort)
2007 Vanderbilt, chalk, finishes 6th
2007 Tom Fool, 1-2 favorite, finishes 3rd
2006 Forego, even $$ favorite, finishes 10th

No, I did not have Einstein. I didn't think Commentator would lose the race. I said I was glad to see him back.
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:06 AM
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Money Burning:

2008 Clark, 2-5 favorite, finishes 3rd.
2008 Met Mile, 6-5 favorite, finishes 2nd(though I thought this was his best effort)
2007 Vanderbilt, chalk, finishes 6th
2007 Tom Fool, 1-2 favorite, finishes 3rd
2006 Forego, even $$ favorite, finishes 10th

No, I did not have Einstein. I didn't think Commentator would lose the race. I said I was glad to see him back.
That's an embarrassing post....even for the internet.

You chose five of his eight career losses....and left out his 13 wins. Congratulations. Only Sumitas can beat you for worst post of the day. Here's hoping!

A Money Burner, by the way, is a horse that is almost always a short price and virtually NEVER wins.
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:12 AM
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Money Burning:

2008 Clark, 2-5 favorite, finishes 3rd.
2008 Met Mile, 6-5 favorite, finishes 2nd(though I thought this was his best effort)
2007 Vanderbilt, chalk, finishes 6th
2007 Tom Fool, 1-2 favorite, finishes 3rd
2006 Forego, even $$ favorite, finishes 10th

No, I did not have Einstein. I didn't think Commentator would lose the race. I said I was glad to see him back.


thats the lamest breakdown of his races possible..dont be haten on commentator ..hes proven his worth far past most of the last 3 years of horses in his path.. to cake 44
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:44 AM
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Alright, alright...money burner is way too strong a term for a horse that has made as much $$ for his connections as Commentator has. I'll also admit that I have a strong bias because of getting burned by him. I am still looking forward to getting some of that $$ back beating him as a 2-5 or 3-5 favorite though. I definitely missed in the Clark in every which way possible, but there will be another opportunity or two.
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Old 12-02-2008, 10:09 AM
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Alright, alright...money burner is way too strong a term for a horse that has made as much $$ for his connections as Commentator has. I'll also admit that I have a strong bias because of getting burned by him. I am still looking forward to getting some of that $$ back beating him as a 2-5 or 3-5 favorite though. I definitely missed in the Clark in every which way possible, but there will be another opportunity or two.


OK, you're off the hook, as you have now broken the cardinal internet rule of ever admitting any possibility you might be wrong.

Thanks.
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:27 AM
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OK, you're off the hook, as you have now broken the cardinal internet rule of ever admitting any possibility you might be wrong.

Thanks.
Don't you wish they gelded more horses? There might be a real industry if (of course its fantasy land) colts couldn't start breeding until after they became 4 year olds.
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