FOCUS RACE: 7/2-Churchill 8th

Kasept · #1 06-30-2008, 07:06 PM

I know many can't bet and some may not be able to get ready access to PP's of this, but I'd like to follow up on the concept floated by Fats, DrugS, Hossy, Andrew, Matt-O, et al, of disxcussing focus races...

8th Wednesday at Churchill hs makings of a dandy...

Churchill Downs 8th (4:56)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Allowance | Purse: $43,100

1 Sinister Lanerie C J 118 LA
2 War Ruler Leparoux J R 118 L
3 Coach Ryan Borel C H 118 L
4 Niobrara Mena M 118 L
5 E Z Phone Home Theriot H J II 118 LA
6 Dr. Nick Hebert T J 118 LA
7 Knock Out Cat Bridgmohan S X 122 LA
8 Siena Canyon Sterling L J Jr 122 LA
9 Fit for a Fight Castanon J L 118 LA
10 The Darp Albarado R J 118 LA

eajinabi · #2 06-30-2008, 07:19 PM

What are focus races?

my miss storm cat · #3 06-30-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi

What are focus races?

I don't know either but here are the pp's...

http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...ans_115552.pdf

jcs11204 · #4 06-30-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

I know many can't bet and some may not be able to get ready access to PP's of this, but I'd like to follow up on the concept floated by Fats, DrugS, Hossy, Andrew, Matt-O, et al, of disxcussing focus races...

8th Wednesday at Churchill hs makings of a dandy...

Churchill Downs 8th (4:56)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Allowance | Purse: $43,100

1 Sinister Lanerie C J 118 LA
2 War Ruler Leparoux J R 118 L
3 Coach Ryan Borel C H 118 L
4 Niobrara Mena M 118 L
5 E Z Phone Home Theriot H J II 118 LA
6 Dr. Nick Hebert T J 118 LA
7 Knock Out Cat Bridgmohan S X 122 LA
8 Siena Canyon Sterling L J Jr 122 LA
9 Fit for a Fight Castanon J L 118 LA
10 The Darp Albarado R J 118 LA

ok, 3 of the 10 are coming straight from a maiden claimer, that is not a angle i will touch.... 3-4 other's are just in bad form right now, to me the most likely winner is the #7 Knock Out Cat

tiggerv · #5 06-30-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

ok, 3 of the 10 are coming straight from a maiden claimer, that is not a angle i will touch.... 3-4 other's are just in bad form right now, to me the most likely winner is the #7 Knock Out Cat

I guess picking the Giants Causeway in the field because you have some kind of fettish for the horse is one way to handicap the race. I won't speak for Steve but perhaps he was looking for a little more...maybe some in depth thoughts about the race?

jcs11204 · #6 06-30-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv

I guess picking the Giants Causeway in the field because you have some kind of fettish for the horse is one way to handicap the race. I won't speak for Steve but perhaps he was looking for a little more...maybe some in depth thoughts about the race?

i do like giants casueway, but i dont bet my money on horses just because a horse is a giants causeway.
as for the little more, why dont you give something... rather then insult me, i gave my horse for the race. did you ? no you did not. you made a comment about me, which was pointless, and really no need for

VOL JACK · #7 06-30-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

i do like giants casueway, but i dont bet my money on horses just because a horse is a giants causeway.
as for the little more, why dont you give something... rather then insult me, i gave my horse for the race. did you ? no you did not. you made a comment about me, which was pointless, and really no need for

You are the one that always replies to your own post.

10 pnt move up · #8 06-30-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

by Fats, DrugS, Hossy, Andrew, Matt-O, et al,

Can we do anything else to get these guys heads just a lil bit bigger?

tiggerv · #9 06-30-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

some of you guys are really dumb, i do like giants casueway, but i dont bet my money on horses just because a horse is a giants causeway.
as for the little more, why dont you give something... rather then insult me, i gave my horse for the race.

Because it will take me more than 3 mins of looking at a PP to properly analyze a race and I don't have time right now. I plan to spend some time with it tomorrow. Some people actually want to watch past races and incorporate that into handicapping.

If you didn't pick the horse because he is a Giants Causeway what do you like about the horse? Do you expect him to improve big 2nd time out? Do you like the connections? Do you like that he overcame a tough trip to win? Do you like the pace scenario? I don't think the point of this thread is to just give out a pick.

ninetoone · #10 06-30-2008, 08:34 PM

Sinister for me at what I would think would be a nice price.

tiggerv · #11 06-30-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I'm picking the Yonaguska because I like sushi

I like Dr. Nick

Ok...I am done butchering Steve's thread.

Rudeboyelvis · #12 06-30-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv

I like Dr. Nick

NICE!

Kasept · #13 06-30-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I don't know either but here are the pp's...

http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...ans_115552.pdf

Thank you Gioia...

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Originally Posted by eajinabi

What are focus races?

A featured event singled out where a discussion can unfold as to the pace scenario, contenders merits/faults, prospective odds and wagering strategies, etc.. By bringing up one specific event that everyone focuses upon, we could ideally help many better understand handicapping stategies/approaches. This 8th at CD is an ideal opportunity because you've got horses of the same age, with a perfect smattering of running styles, in various form cycles, coming together at the most fair distance there is...

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Can we do anything else to get these guys heads just a lil bit bigger?

Hard to say... But I'll take the 'over'.

#14 06-30-2008, 09:14 PM

What's so good about this race?

Kasept · #15 06-30-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

What's so good about this race?

It's a very well-matched field. Should be an interesting betting race.

#16 06-30-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

It's a very well-matched field. Should be an interesting betting race.

It's a very bad field. That's why it's well-matched.

GPK · #17 06-30-2008, 09:28 PM

I love this concept.

Won't comment much without watching replays, but NIOBRARA seems interesting to me on paper. Willing to toss the debut and the sloppy race after that. Seems to have figured it out a little bit now with the last 2 and with only 4 races under his belt, certainly eligible to move forward again. Should be a decent price as well.

Will try and watch some replays and possibly comment further.

Thanks again guys. Great idea and looking forward to reading others take on this race.

Kasept · #18 06-30-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It's a very bad field. That's why it's well-matched.

It's a N1X. Some here look forward going with upside and some will head for tags. That's part of the point of this. Identifying which are which.

jcs11204 · #19 06-30-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

It's a N1X. Some here look forward going with upside and some will head for tags. That's part of the point of this. Identifying which are which.

ok, well i guess that answers my question...
so i will just put a race up that i like a lot.

#20 06-30-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

It's a N1X. Some here look forward going with upside and some will head for tags. That's part of the point of this. Identifying which are which.

Half of the field has already been in for a tag. Asmussen's horse is the standout in this race and should be a very short price.

Lots of early speed on paper. 1,2,7,10 are interesting.