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06-14-2008, 12:33 PM
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Watchmon - can anyone help this guy?
http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps...NTPAGECAROUSEL
This story annoys me. If anyone out there has disposable income they can throw on an unwanted stallion... please rescue him. Geld him. Make him a trail horse or something... if I had the cash I would take him in an instant. Some remember Watchmon.... formerly owned by Pompa.. finished 9th in the Belmont, won the Jamiaca. He broke his ankle up at Saratoga that summer and it appears Pompa unloaded him rather quickly to Cornell and a vet tech adopts him. Happy ending? Nope. First, the adopter took the horse with 'hopes to breed him'... well, no one wants to pay what she is asking for. Now she is in debt, cant afford to keep him, so wants to sell him. Shes put around 10K into him and now cant afford it anymore. 5K offers arent enough... she says she will donate whatever she gets from selling him to charity... yeah, her own pocket so she can pull herself out of debt.... Reading that story made me so angry... the tone is that of 'oh its to help the children'... bull, it was to make a buck... now you cant so the horse is a 'burden' you need to unload. Such crap. Where is Pompa in this? Why can't he find a nice place for his former WINNER? I am more than sure he can afford to take this horse and find him a new home. I guess maybe the problem is the greedy Witch who adopted him wants her money back and he's not paying for a broke down saddle pony... 
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06-14-2008, 12:59 PM
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Sounds like her intent was good and just didn't work out. Being out of work for 8 months I know full well the pressures money can place on you and it appears to me that she's trying to do the right thing.
Better than selling the horse off for the meat market. Spyder
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06-14-2008, 02:10 PM
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This is a strange story...
Last edited by Cannon Shell : 06-14-2008 at 04:42 PM.
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06-14-2008, 03:06 PM
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She either sh!thouse crazy or has allowed greed to cloud her judgement regarding what the horse's potential worth was. I'm leaning strongly towards the latter but either way she has made some distrubung choices all under the guise of some "spiritual awakening" that God was supposed to figure this all out for her and that hasn't exactly worked out- now she's stuck with a lame ex racehorse that can't even be ridden and STILL allows greed to override her decisions by refusing to accept a very generous offer considering what the horse is worth. If she was even remotely genuious, she have sold the horse, paid her bills and given whatever was left over to this charity - and then donate the 250.00 a month she spent on care of the horse to the same charity each month. But no, she wants what she put into the horse back, and is holding her creditors hostage until she gets her way, which will be exactly never.
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06-14-2008, 03:39 PM
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I'm not buying her hardluck story either. My BS Meter is going crazy. Does anyone know what farm/breeder Watchmon came from? Someone needs to rescue him before he ends up on a truck to Mexico. Or worse. Like slowly starving to death somewhere. Where's Pompa? Watchmon won over $300,000 for him. The horse has earned a happy retirement. I'm sick of people throwing spent racehorses away like garbage.
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06-14-2008, 04:03 PM
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it would be nice if pompa (who i would assume is a bit more flush with cash these days ) would step up and help out one of his former runners.
either way, too bad that someone who wants to do the right thing ends up doing everything but. she needs to do what she can for the horse, and forget about money spent that she most likely will not ever see again. that was HER choice, not watchmons.
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06-14-2008, 04:48 PM
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I hope you guys arent suggesting that Pompa give this lady any money. She adopted the horse and now realizes that her insane scheme is costing her too much money, but why should Pompa have to bail her out? It would be nice if he could get into a retirement farm where he should have been sent in the first place. Of course he would have to be gelded to go to one of those farms which would have interfered with his 'stallion' plans.
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06-14-2008, 05:31 PM
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I think Pompa and/or the breeder should give her fair market value for the horse. Which is about...let's see,,,,,gotta grab my calculator,,,broken down ex-racehorse pasture ornament stallion with mediocre bloodlines...oh, I dunno, about zip, nada, ZERO???? I don't know what moron offered her 5,000 for him, but she should have taken it and ran. (for the kids) I do think Pompa should find the horse a decent retirement home, preferably with someone thats not a nut.
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06-14-2008, 06:55 PM
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i think the reason people are looking to pompa is that the horse was his, and he's in a position to help out-much like other owners do for former horses, if given a chance.
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06-14-2008, 07:08 PM
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I have no idea what kind of condition he is in, soundness-wise but the first thing he will need (as I discussed on the GELD HIM) thread, is "brain surgery." Lop off his ...ahem...the boys and someone may want him. Maybe Cornell can send a vet student to do it.
This is the classic case of some dreamy person who thinks that all you to stand a stallion is an animal with testicles. There are worse racehorses, with worse breeding standing in NY and getting mares. IF (an it's a big if) someone had taken Watchmon at a well known farm, and promoted him and had the right professional care for him, he could have been breeding now. I would think it would be a nice thing for Pompa (for whom he won a G2) to take him and place him in an appropriate retirement situation. If he is riding sound, find him a home. If not, make arrangements for his care. Since it looks like she got the horse for free, it's a lesson learned for this woman. Nothing in this world will ever cost you more than a free horse.
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06-14-2008, 08:03 PM
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Another seemingly good hearted loon who got a spiritual message from above and decided to pawn this horse's sperm " for the children " ...
I do not buy it at all ... Sure she may have taken the horse, and assumed reponsibility, but she obviously had an agenda---and obviously did not understand what the value of poor Watchmon was--as a stallion or an ornament ... The 5 grand was a gift from above she failed to register in her greed for compensation and glory ... She almost cried at the offer ??? She should have cried for not taking it ... Praise the lord, and pass the hat---for the children ... Rubbish ... F her, but someone needs to get the horse ...
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06-14-2008, 08:18 PM
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Just to clarify,,,,when I said "I'm sick of people throwing away spent racehorses like garbage", I wasn't suggesting Pompa did that to Watchmon. I don't know the story there. Probably Pompa thought Watchmon *was* going to a great retirement home with a vet tech. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. Since she is in the vet industry she, of all people, should have known that there is no such thing as a free horse. And also that it takes a lot of $$$ to stand a stallion. I'm just concerned for the horse. Having suppossedly turned down 5K for him, I doubt if she would be receptive to giving him away to someone who can assure him a forever home. Sheesh, I'd love to have him, but right now I couldn't even afford to take him for free. I'd have to shell out $$$ to transport him to Ohio and have him gelded immediately. I hope there is a happy ending awaiting.
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06-14-2008, 09:17 PM
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Originally, the horse was donated to Cornell University. I'd imagine they'd have used him there as a blood donor or, since he's intact, as a teaching stallion. The article says he has a fused ankle as a result of the fracture, so he's not a candidate for becoming any sort of riding horse.
It's not clear what the circumstances were with her 'adopting' him, but I wonder if Cornell was willing to accept him, without her involvement, when Pompa first donated him.
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06-15-2008, 07:54 AM
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truer words rarely spoken....in the past year I have spent over 6K saving a horse that I originally gave $1000 for, and that was charity at the time.
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06-15-2008, 10:47 AM
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A bit off topic, but Texas Pioneer, (9, half sibling of Danthebluegrassman,103 Starts: 8 - 13 - 19, $170,439) is available from his owner/trainer.
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06-15-2008, 12:51 PM
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I'm not suggesting that Pompa has to do anything more than maybe KNOW where his horse got to. I am more than sure he would be concerned.
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07-09-2008, 03:20 PM
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This lady took a lot of heat but amazingly she did donate half of what she sold him for to charity. Sometimes things just dont make sense.
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07-09-2008, 03:55 PM
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07-09-2008, 03:58 PM
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Hes worth about 5k, maybe not that much.
He cant work here in the United States unless someone was going to support him, she cannot
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