$5.50 for this?

[geeker2]

Tax Big Oil and subsidize DRF

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

in 2096 the replays will be in holographic form with every drf..though the cost will be about 550.bucks in euros...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

You have something against Hammersly's M/L's? Is there somewhere besides making my own that I should be getting them from?

And if that's the case, just another example of dimminshed quality? Not being able to use the M/L from horse racing's premiere paper.

They are often way off base

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You obviously don't, because you said so earlier. It's not a club. But isn't there some kind of responsibility on YOU, you know the one actually betting. The DRF can only show so much. You seem angry they aren't showing you more. How about a little good old fashioned work? In terms of not knowing which tracks are and aren't synthetic, if you follow the sport and wager your money and do not know by now which tracks are or aren't, please, bet more.

Seriously, you guys are amazing. Remember when Andy had his "time off" because posting here was more work than it was worth. Well, people like you are the reason. Where in ANY of my posts did I ever say I didn't know? I may have said that I thought the 1 mile races were actually 1 mi and 70 yrds on the Inner at AQU, but I never said I didn't know which races were 1 or 2 turns. Read the posts before becoming all elitest. I said it would be a welcome addition to the PP's. Seriously, what would be the harm. This way I wouldn't have to explain it to whomever I am with that day that doesn't spend 5-6 days a week watching horseracing. You pick out one freaking thing people say a harp on it to no end. How about the other points? CLOSER LOOK is f'in lame...argue that...They can't even put in the pertinant Trainer stats consistantly...argue that...is there harm in putting the m/l in the actual PP's? What the hell are peoples problem on this board. Mr "I know every track configuration in the country, you should too" DaHoss, doesn't like one thing I say and I'm a slacker...Get real people...

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

1. The DRF isn't what it used to be? Probably true print version but then again is your Sunday paper as good as it was 15 years ago?

2. Their product is deteriorating? Aside from print, DRF has a great product in Formulator. They obviously have a segmented approach. A thinned down print version for casual players and Formuator for the other folks. If you have not used Formulator, give it a spin.

3. The writing is poor? Yes, see #1. I, for one, long for the short but sweet days of The Racing Times. It was a sad day for us when Fox fell -- or was pushed -- off that boat.

4. If you find the DRF print version fairly not useful, aside from the PPs, get them for free from Youbet (or Bris PPs for free from TwinSpires). If you like some public handicapper insight and play the major tracks, I'm sure the NY, LA and KY papers will have that.

5. Take the savings and get a Race Replays account. At $60 for 90 days, that's about $.75 a day, not very much money really.

6. Morning Line? I don't know what to say.

If you took a step back and considered how much you have to spend, what some of the options are and how to spend it the wisest, you might be pleasantly surprised at how much bang you can get for that $5.50 a day, even if it's only a couple days a week.

I do really miss The Racing Times.

Thank You and I have a RaceReplays account. It is very useful...

[Cannon Shell]

No Luv for Pletch will love this


""There?s no pace in the race other than SAVYS DELITE; she can get a clear lead, and the Polytrack tries we see showing all came in sprints, while she may be better at this one-turn mile trip; hasn?t yet run fast enough to win at this class level, but with the right trip, she could improve enough to contend at long odds "

from analysis of Saturdays 4th at AP. I guess I would have more respect for his opinion if he handicapped the race knowing it was a 2 turn 1 1/16th race rather than a 1 turn mile race. But I suppose you get what you pay for.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No Luv for Pletch will love this


""There?s no pace in the race other than SAVYS DELITE; she can get a clear lead, and the Polytrack tries we see showing all came in sprints, while she may be better at this one-turn mile trip; hasn?t yet run fast enough to win at this class level, but with the right trip, she could improve enough to contend at long odds "

from analysis of Saturdays 4th at AP. I guess I would have more respect for his opinion if he handicapped the race knowing it was a 2 turn 1 1/16th race rather than a 1 turn mile race. But I suppose you get what you pay for.

Great find Chuck. There is probably something along these lines multiple times a day...mailing it in...

Here's another one from the genius that brought us the comments I refered to in my initial post...

"he has fired well in 7 previous Belmont Park defeats"

the horse's record over the track is 7 starts 0-4-0

okay where do I start, the horse is 0-7 at Belmont, how do the words "fired well" even enter your mind...
also, last time this animal visited Belmont, the only race in his visible PP's, he was just nipped, finishing 6th, beaten 22 3/4 lengths...

you can't make this stuff up

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Great find Chuck. There is probably something along these lines multiple times a day...mailing it in...

Here's another one from the genius that brought us the comments I refered to in my initial post...

"he has fired well in 7 previous Belmont Park defeats"

the horse's record over the track is 7 starts 0-4-0

okay where do I start, the horse is 0-7 at Belmont, how do the words "fired well" even enter your mind...
also, last time this animal visited Belmont, the only race in his visible PP's, he was just nipped, finishing 6th, beaten 22 3/4 lengths...

you can't make this stuff up

what was the horses record at other tracks? without that information its tough to say whether or not the description of firing well at Belmont is accurate or not. at a low enough level that might be accurate.

you've already stated that you disagree and find inaccurate information in the "a closer look" comments, my question then is why do you take the time to read it?

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

what was the horses record at other tracks? without that information its tough to say whether or not the description of firing well at Belmont is accurate or not. at a low enough level that might be accurate.

you've already stated that you disagree and find inaccurate information in the "a closer look" comments, my question then is why do you take the time to read it?

the horse has run in stakes races in 9 of it's last 12 races and has earned nearly 400K...he has finished in the exacta in more than half of his races...

in response to your second question, aren't we all looking for as much information as possible? isn't that why people pay $35 for what amounts to speed figures?

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Save the $5.50 then. or $4.50 at the track. I think the price is in line with everything else in this country. Go buy a gallon of milk, then come back and tell me you gave up milk.

Gas was 32 cents a gallon when I started driving, and I could bring a date out for less than $5.00 bucks, and come back home with $2.00.

Many other on-line PP's for a 1.00 a card.

.....urrr old

[alysheba4]

i think gas was .64 when i started driving.......im old 2 ..........remember the racing times? i think that was what it was called. that was awesome.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

the horse has run in stakes races in 9 of it's last 12 races and has earned nearly 400K...he has finished in the exacta in more than half of his races...

the Belmont record you gave was 4 seconds in 7 tries, 57% in the exacta, and you say they were stakes races. what's wrong with calling that firing well at Belmont?

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

i think gas was .64 when i started driving.......im old 2 ..........remember the racing times? i think that was what it was called. that was awesome.

I remember my Dad filling-up at the local Gulf station for .18 /gal

[MISTERGEE]

my fave is when in the comments they say something like the horse or trainer is worth choosing today because he is 50% at such and such, then you go to look it up and he is 1 for 2

[MISTERGEE]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

i think gas was .64 when i started driving.......im old 2 ..........remember the racing times? i think that was what it was called. that was awesome.

enjoyed racing times but it didnt last long at all--
gas in so fla

1964 29 cents gal
1998 98 cent gal
today 3.89

son of a ---------------------

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

the Belmont record you gave was 4 seconds in 7 tries, 57% in the exacta, and you say they were stakes races. what's wrong with calling that firing well at Belmont?

Are you serious? Do you people have to argue everything...the guy said:

HE HAS FIRED WELL IN 7 PREVIOUS BELMONT PARK DEFEATS and he lost his last race over the track by almost 23 lengths...how can you even argue this?

and I didn't say the 7 BEL races were stakes races, I said of his last 12 races, 9 of them were stakes races, and only 1 of those was at BEL...

when I post on this site, does my font change to Chinese?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

the horse has run in stakes races in 9 of it's last 12 races and has earned nearly 400K...he has finished in the exacta in more than half of his races...

in response to your second question, aren't we all looking for as much information as possible? isn't that why people pay $35 for what amounts to speed figures?

how much good information is contained in those little blurbs? very little. 3-4 little snippets at best, from one person? i don't think many people are buying the form for the valuable info contained in the "a closer look" comments. the value is in the pp's and speed figures.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

when I post on this site, does my font change to Chinese?

Whinese is more like it! *Rimshot*

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Are you serious? Do you people have to argue everything...the guy said:

HE HAS FIRED WELL IN 7 PREVIOUS BELMONT PARK DEFEATS and he lost his last race over the track by almost 23 lengths...how can you even argue this?

and I didn't say the 7 BEL races were stakes races, I said of his last 12 races, 9 of them were stakes races, and only 1 of those was at BEL...

when I post on this site, does my font change to Chinese?

so it should have said fired well in most Belmont starts, what is the big deal?

you are the one that started the thread arguing about how bad the drf has become, and then give flimsy reasons.

if you're hanging on every word written in the closer look you need lots of help, beyond what the form can provide.

especially if you still don't know which tracks have 1 turn miles.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Here's your locigal comparison as it pertains to Milk. Before I paid $4.00 for a gallon of milk. Now I pay $5.50 for that same gallon of milk because I have to expect that prices are increasing everywhere. Except now, the gallon of milk I buy is only 3 days from going sour instead of 10 days. I should accept this?

Where do I say that the information provided in the DRF is a complete waste? How the hell can one handicap without PP's? Is my point that difficult to comprehend? Do I write in code? Why shouldn't we expect the premiere racing periodical in our country to be top notch? If you feel that the DRF is top notch, and the errors and flaws I speak of don't exsist, then say so. But, I'm pretty sure that they do exist, because I don't just pull this crap out of my ass. I don't feel that the DRF's price increases over the past 2-3 years (somewhere between 35% and 40%) are justified based on the dimminishing quality over that same period.

I still don't get the analogy.

can you put it in terms of bacon?