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I hit all 5 matchups offered yesterday at Toga, but none of them were of any significant amount. $ of the 5 were the underdog won, but again...they money wasn't enough to make a difference. |
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![]() they call gpk "The Line Mover" over at Pinnacle.
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![]() Bernardini is the flava o the month right now. If he's solid the next few outings, he'll get-r-done.
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![]() 2 things I'd like to correct/comment on-
Someone said that Bernardini is undefeated- he's not - I'm not sure if he lost at age 2 or 3 (I don't think he raced @ 2 but could be wrong) - but he lost in an allowance race- i believe it was his first race whenever it was- no matter when it was, Barbaro is undefeated for the sake of argument and Bernardini is not. The NTRA poll is also totally misleading because, obviously, some voters stopped voting for Barbaro as soon as he got hurt because even if he is/was the best 3 y.o. or horse of any age, it wouldn't matter because he's retired. Even though the poll may usually be a good indicator of how the awards go, it's totally skewed this year. |
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![]() O and boldruler- why does it matter what surface showing up is better on? Barbaro was better than him on both. And correct me if I'm wrong (I really don't know, not being sarcastic)- it's 3 y.o. of the year, right? Not 3 y.o. dirt horse of the year.
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also, for several years now i've cautioned others on their prognostications about eclipse awards, esp the 3 yo's...i don't toot my own horn often, but i haven't been wrong yet. i think flower alley is a legit comparison, especially considering his wins in the jim dandy, the travers, his runs before the derby, and his efforts against older horses. giving the eclipse out NOW is incredibly premature. the travers hasn't been won yet, but already some are proclaiming bernardini an easy winner--a horse who hasn't even run 10f yet, while many in his age group did so months ago--some better than others of course.... had there been no dual classic winnner last year, flower alley would have gotten the nod. at this point tho, bernardini is ahead of giacomo in accomplishments, but he's not a shoo in.
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"flower alley ran second in the bcc and won the travers, alex still got the vote. now, of course bernardini won a classic, that's in his favor. but i feel he would have to win out the year to get 3 yo honors. second in the bcc wasn't enough in years past, it won't be this year either. " That's what I was addressing. I, and most of the people in this thread, don't think he has to win the bcc. Your comparison to Flower Alley is not valid, IMO, because (1) FA did NOT win a TC race, and (2) FA was up against a dual TC winner, whereas Bernardini is up against a single TC winner. Quote:
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson |
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![]() The money on the Pinnacle prop is coming in primarily on Bernardini. The line is now:
101 Barbaro +121 102 Bernardini -137 For those not familiar with sports notation, "+121" means you bet 100 to win 121. "-137" means you bet 137 to win 100. So Barbaro is about 6-5 while Bernardini is about 7-10. --Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson |
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--Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson |
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he is +107 RIGHT NOW |
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![]() BTW, the reason it is dated for 8/6 is that is when they are taking the line down..Line comes down on 8/6 at 9am PST
I think that is what it is.. My limit is 285.71, like yours |
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![]() my limits on head to head matchups are now at $500 at Toga...yesterday they were $200
the eclipse bet is still $200 |
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--Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson |
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101 Barbaro -120 102 Bernardini +104 This indicates that Pinnacle has taken in MORE money on Barbaro than on Bernardini. --Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson |
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![]() probably because there was another big race yesterday, and now invasor is on all minds, not bernardini.
just wait til after the haskell! such short memories....except amazingly where it comes to barbaros victories. he's turning into legend, bernardini will have to become one himself to compete with that.
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I can see where the Haskell outcome might have a small effect. A big win by Bluegrass Cat might flatter Barbaro's Ky Derby, for example. But I'm still surprised they've taken it down. --Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson |