capping 101..the "SPOCK HORSE" - Page 4

Bobby Fischer · #61 01-19-2008, 09:43 AM

the 6th at Gulfstream is a heck of a maiden race IMO.
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...cher_99866.pdf

I like the 2nd choice , wouldn't surprise me if this "Shug" colt ends up in a race like the Wood.

miraja2 · #62 01-19-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

the 6th at Gulfstream is a heck of a maiden race IMO.
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...cher_99866.pdf

I like the 2nd choice , wouldn't surprise me if this "Shug" colt ends up in a race like the Wood.

I like Miller's Monarchos colt (15/1 ML) a little in that race. He isn't a likely winner but he showed a little run late in his debut and he certainly could improve when stretching out and switching surfaces. I think he could be a horse to use at a price in exotics.

#63 01-19-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

the 6th at Gulfstream is a heck of a maiden race IMO.
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...cher_99866.pdf

I like the 2nd choice , wouldn't surprise me if this "Shug" colt ends up in a race like the Wood.

Elysium Fields' Jan. 8th work stands out to me. A better break and this one should win fairly easy.

TheSpyder · #64 01-19-2008, 10:07 AM

Very tough race as many have said.

I'd g with the #9 - Saint Daimon. You got to believe he's ready with the eye poping works shown so being in shape is no problem. And as a 5 YO you have to think he's in the best racing shape of his career. If you look whose he's run against and believe he ready to go I say he takes these.

Thoughts?

hoovesupsideyourhead · #65 01-19-2008, 10:16 AM

tough race ill use the 11 as the outsider along with the lodgical and probebly favored 8/3

miraja2 · #66 01-19-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Elysium Fields' Jan. 8th work stands out to me. A better break and this one should win fairly easy.

I wonder why that horse hasn't tried the turf yet?
You would think that a colt that was by El Prado, out of a Silver Hawk mare, that was 0 for 3 on the dirt, and was trained by Tagg would be headed straight to the lawn.
I must be missing something.

#67 01-19-2008, 10:29 AM

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I wonder why that horse hasn't tried the turf yet?
You would think that a colt that was by El Prado, out of a Silver Hawk mare, that was 0 for 3 on the dirt, and was trained by Tagg would be headed straight to the lawn.
I must be missing something.

Well he's shown some ability on the dirt, albeit against suspect company. This isn't exactly a race of world beaters either. The 3 contenders have outside posts and that's the kiss of death at this distance.

And isn't it common practice for some trainers to have their turfers break their maidens on the dirt?

hoovesupsideyourhead · #68 01-19-2008, 10:31 AM

most want to win on the dirt..thats where the money is..then to the turf..

Bobby Fischer · #69 01-19-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Elysium Fields' Jan. 8th work stands out to me. A better break and this one should win fairly easy.

That was a good work.
would love to know if he had the blinks for that workout^^^

Also note that the race @ Laurel was vs. derby hopeful Visionaire.

I really liked Elysium Field's finish in the last race... I don't like the addition of the blinkers -
Sometimes you add the blinks to a horse that has some nice late form, and he wants to flatten out a little.. (hard to disagree with a hof trainer like Tagg)

A lot of interesting horses in here... The Indian Charlie (Sir Jock) is a nice big horse, but he hasn't shown a ton of talent yet , there is the Zito horse off the layoff, the Ward/Oxley Gray ....

It should come down to the two ml fav along with whatever speed can last.

TheSpyder · #70 01-19-2008, 11:11 AM

What about the Pletcher horse, Calzone. He's on fire this meet, has positive ROI for first routers, and seems to have taken this one back for some tinkering and should bring him ready. Pletcher/J.R. only 73% at the meet....and ML 10/1...Looks Yummy

Spyder

blackthroatedwind · #71 01-19-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

most want to win on the dirt..thats where the money is..then to the turf..

This is, apparently, a very hard concept for people to grasp.

Bobby Fischer · #72 01-19-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

What about the Pletcher horse, Calzone. He's on fire this meet, has positive ROI for first routers, and seems to have taken this one back for some tinkering and should bring him ready. Pletcher/J.R. only 73% at the meet....and ML 10/1...Looks Yummy

Spyder

he's a total unknown. Bred like a champ. Hottest jockey/trainer combo. Just didn't show much in his debut. At least he was passing a few tired horses.
If you were to spread heavy in a trifecta or something you would have to include underneath.\\

EDIT - i don't know what the heck i'm going to do here... I am basically looking very chalky with my capping - usually means I pass the race... I am also considering the superfecta. This could be a rare race where using a 2 horse key makes sense.

Bobby Fischer · #73 01-19-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Elysium Fields' Jan. 8th work stands out to me. A better break and this one should win fairly easy.

Good Call

TheSpyder · #74 01-19-2008, 04:22 PM

That was a complete brain fart race. How could anyone come up with that shiat?

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Very tough race as many have said.

I'd g with the #9 - Saint Daimon. You got to believe he's ready with the eye poping works shown so being in shape is no problem. And as a 5 YO you have to think he's in the best racing shape of his career. If you look whose he's run against and believe he ready to go I say he takes these.

Thoughts?

miraja2 · #75 01-19-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

I like Miller's Monarchos colt (15/1 ML) a little in that race. He isn't a likely winner but he showed a little run late in his debut and he certainly could improve when stretching out and switching surfaces. I think he could be a horse to use at a price in exotics.

He ran last.
Sometimes I even amaze myself.

miraja2 · #76 01-19-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

most want to win on the dirt..thats where the money is..then to the turf..

I get that as a general rule, but given this particular horse's pedigree and trainer I would have expected him to switch to the grass earlier.
But of course, he won by 8 today on the dirt so....

robfla · #77 01-19-2008, 04:32 PM

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I also think that Winnie's Tigger Too, who should be a long price, has run some deceptively good races against decent horses at CRC.

was closing out a nice P3 and was moving forward in P4 if Winnie goes by @35:1..looked like a winner at the top of the stretch.

chop chop gets his quota for the week at my expense.

TheSpyder · #78 01-19-2008, 04:38 PM

Nice tag though. Would not have picked that one ever

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was closing out a nice P3 and was moving forward in P4 if Winnie goes by @35:1..looked like a winner at the top of the stretch.

chop chop gets his quota for the week at my expense.

Hickory Hill Hoff · #79 01-20-2008, 08:48 AM

Aqueduct (6th) 1/20 - a "championship day" hunch bet (even though he's not there) Pennington.....today's "Spock" horse

TheSpyder · #80 01-20-2008, 10:20 AM

Scratched....

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Aqueduct (6th) 1/20 - a "championship day" hunch bet (even though he's not there) Pennington.....today's "Spock" horse