Jamie Sanders - Page 7

Cajungator26 · #**121** 06-12-2007, 12:38 PM

Ok, this is probably a stupid thought, but does anyone else think that Devil's Bag as T-berger's broodmare sire might have something to do with how sound he has stayed? Devil's Bag is the sire of Devil His Due who ran all but one start drug free. From what I understand, Devil His Due was a pretty sound horse as well. I just wonder if that may have something to do with it.

philcski · #**122** 06-12-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Ok, this is probably a stupid thought, but does anyone else think that Devil's Bag as T-berger's broodmare sire might have something to do with how sound he has stayed? Devil's Bag is the sire of Devil His Due who ran all but one start drug free. From what I understand, Devil His Due was a pretty sound horse as well. I just wonder if that may have something to do with it.

I don't know... Devil's Bag was the first racehorse I ever loved... still have the '84 Flamingo program, only race he ever lost. But he pretty much sucked as a sire, outside of Devil His Due and Twilight Agenda.

His last crop hits the track this year.

Indian Charlie · #**123** 06-12-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

I don't know... Devil's Bag was the first racehorse I ever loved... still have the '84 Flamingo program, only race he ever lost. But he pretty much sucked as a sire, outside of Devil His Due and Twilight Agenda.

His last crop hits the track this year.

abaginone was decent.
taiki shuttle was hoy in japan i believe.
devils orchid was a monster sprinter filly awhile back!
region was a pretty nice horse.

quebrada was an interesting mare. she was a german raced mare who in 12 starts had 7 wins, 2 2nds and 2 3rds. she was out of the tough as nails mare queen to conquer, who i believe either beat or nearly beat john henry once.

while you could say he was a disappointment at stud, i dont know if he really sucked like you say. me, i think forestry sucks!

sumitas · #**124** 06-12-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Ok, this is probably a stupid thought, but does anyone else think that Devil's Bag as T-berger's broodmare sire might have something to do with how sound he has stayed? Devil's Bag is the sire of Devil His Due who ran all but one start drug free. From what I understand, Devil His Due was a pretty sound horse as well. I just wonder if that may have something to do with it.

i see that Spectacular Bid is on the broodmare side as well. he always did his best work on the mare side of the pedigrees it seems.

Cajungator26 · #**125** 06-12-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

I don't know... Devil's Bag was the first racehorse I ever loved... still have the '84 Flamingo program, only race he ever lost. But he pretty much sucked as a sire, outside of Devil His Due and Twilight Agenda.

His last crop hits the track this year.

There's a Devil's Bag filly in the upcoming sale in Ocala. Her page is below:

http://obssales.com/juncatalog/2007/494.PDF

I'm probably going to head up to Ocala to check them out under tack on Sunday.

sumitas · #**126** 06-12-2007, 03:01 PM

a good article here
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/04/sp...rssnyt&emc=rss

philcski · #**127** 06-12-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

There's a Devil's Bag filly in the upcoming sale in Ocala. Her page is below:

http://obssales.com/juncatalog/2007/494.PDF

I'm probably going to head up to Ocala to check them out under tack on Sunday.

Ocala Jun 2YO in training sale? 99% she can't run.

I'll never forget the buzz about the 'Bag, and reading Steve Crist's articles chronicling his journey towards the Derby.

Cajungator26 · #**128** 06-12-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Ocala Jun 2YO in training sale? 99% she can't run.

I'll never forget the buzz about the 'Bag, and reading Steve Crist's articles chronicling his journey towards the Derby.

Yeah, maybe not. I think Buzzard's Bay was a June OBS grad, though if I recall. So you never know... Haven't seen them yet, but it'll give me something to do this weekend anyway.

philcski · #**129** 06-12-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Yeah, maybe not. I think Buzzard's Bay was a June OBS grad, though if I recall. So you never know... Haven't seen them yet, but it'll give me something to do this weekend anyway.

Surely, sounds like a cool trip. I've never been to Ocala for a 2YO sale...

Cajungator26 · #**130** 06-12-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Surely, sounds like a cool trip. I've never been to Ocala for a 2YO sale...

I go all of the time... wish I had the $$ to get one. LOL

It's cool to see some of the nicer ones go through the ring. Over the past couple of years I've seen quite a few future stakes winners and it's cool to have seen them as yearlings and two year olds.

There’s a gray Silver Charm colt in there that I want to see (hip #123)… his dam is a half sister to The Tin Man’s dam AND she was tested for a large heart and was one of ten mares measured in last 20 years by Dr. Fregin to have a heart that large.

I loved Silver Charm, so if this one looks anything like his Pops, it'll be the worth the hour drive.

philcski · #**131** 06-12-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I go all of the time... wish I had the $$ to get one. LOL

It's cool to see some of the nicer ones go through the ring. Over the past couple of years I've seen quite a few future stakes winners and it's cool to have seen them as yearlings and two year olds.

There’s a gray Silver Charm colt in there that I want to see (hip #123)… his dam is a half sister to The Tin Man’s dam AND she was tested for a large heart and was one of ten mares measured in last 20 years by Dr. Fregin to have a heart that large.

I loved Silver Charm, so if this one looks anything like his Pops, it'll be the worth the hour drive.

I loved Silver Charm as well, I'm planning on going to the Hall of Fame induction this year for him.

philcski · #**132** 06-12-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

If I recall correctly, he was exhausted after prevailing in the Dubai World Cup. As he walked -- or perhaps more correctly, was guided -- to the winner's circle, his head was slumped and his mane was matted by sweat.

What a battler he was. One of my recent favorites, too.

I'm a sucker for horses with mediocre pedigrees who run their eyeballs out!

Isn't it ironic that the horse I have as my avatar right now was the one that broke all our hearts in the Belmont.

zippyneedsawin · #**133** 06-12-2007, 05:45 PM

I can't believe I just waded through this thread.

Here's my 2 cents: Even if you believe Sanders' training performance of Teufelsberg is "great," that doesn't make her a great trainer.

#**134** 06-12-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Dammit, you guys are driving me nuts. It's TEUFLESBERG.

Yeesh.

You are correct sir!
To avoid further slip-ups
I am now calling this horse "devils mountain"