Street Sense finally will get his chance to silence doubter

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i bet the red sea but have come to accept the win by moses. learn from me.

I'm getting a little sick of the Department of Street Sense Defense, but that was a pretty funny line.

[ninetoone]

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[ARyan]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

His one doubter on Earth left I assume......

In my final post here before the Kentucky Derby---I wrote about Calvin Borel's otherworldly success from an ROI standpoint. If you simply bet $100 on every Borel mount at CD over the last 12 months, you would have made a $37,827 profit.

I ended the post with the following....

"In a 20 horse field, with all the other riders aware of his dedication to riding the rail, we should now finally get to find out what Street Sense is capable of, when he doesn't get a magical rail-skimming ride from Calvin."

We found out no such thing! I had a feeling Borel might have been insane enough to attempt a daring last-to-first rail run---but, obviously he would get stopped, and we'd be hearing his Derby backers complain about his ride up until the Preakness.

Not only has Street Sense never run a really good figure when he's not had a dream trip, unmolested rail-run...but he shows many of the same bad habits through the final furlong of those races, that his sire was famous for.

In this decade, the spectacular Street Cry was arguably as brilliant in route races as any horse not named Ghostzapper. However, he had a very serious hanging problem.

He put on dazzling displays of hanging in both the Del Mar Futurity and Norfolk Stakes.

In the Del Mar Futurity, pacesetter Flame Thrower was involved in a 4 way head-to-head pace battle with three other VERY FAST horses. They being Arabian Light (who worked 20 and change at Barretts March and later set the pace in the BC Juvie after winning a Grade 1) Squirtle Squirt (who later won a Breeders Cup Sprint) and High Cascade (who buried Point Given in a wire-to-wire MSW win in his previous start)

Meanwhile, Street Cry rated well off this 4-way head-to-head battle up front, racing in 6th place after a half mile, he made an eye-catching move to confront Flame Thrower at the 1/8th pole. But, he hung like rotten salami through the last furlong. Turning a certain victory into a puzzling defeat.

The "ultra gutsy" Flame Thrower also fought him off in an epic stretch battle in the 105 Beyer Norfolk Stakes.

Street Cry ran 3rd to Macho Uno and Point Given in the Juvenile, according to the chart he "loomed a solid threat for the last eighth but gained only slightly." Street Cry made eight American starts, and had a 8-2-5-1 record. His lone stake win coming in a 118 Beyer Stephen Foster tour de force at Churchill Downs.

However, Street Cry's finest moment of hanging never came in America. In the 2002 UAE Derby, he made an eye-catching move to sieze a lead in deep stretch, seemingly mowing down Lido Palace and Express Tour, and headed for certain victory. However, after passing Express Tour and taking a half length lead on him, he went about his stretch antics, and was beaten. It was truly a legendary piece of hanging.

Street Cry blew horses off the track and ran gigantic figures when he won. When he won, he won spectacularly, when he lost, he hung spectacularly. He was the anti-John Henry. He's the last horse you'd want in a dog fight.

Very quietly, in his last two starts, his son Street Sense has bore in late through the stretch. He's shown signs of hang in his races when he doesn't get his preferred dream trip, and until he shows he can both run a good figure and win a race, without getting his trip....I will stubbornly continue to use him underneath in all exotics, and hope his impossiblestreak of perfect trips finally comes to an end.

There is no way the other jockeys let him skate up the rail this time---and I doubt his one explosive move will be enough to circle and drowned this field---he's going to have to win the Preakness in the final furlong, and without his trip....and when he does that....he'll shut me up for good...and this lunacy will cease.

Yawn.....

I'm bored with this...

See you after Saturday...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

For the record....

I certainly don't think he will bounce.

[milliam]

We are forgetting a strong angle NYRA can't catch a break anywhere, a possible Street Sense going for the crown vs a possible showdown with RTR is asking alot.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

For the record....

I certainly don't think NYRA's luck (or lack of luck) will have anything to do with the outcome on Saturday.

[milliam]

This is a Karma angle similar to Mazurs outstanding info but this is free.

[Bobby Fischer]

On the head-on view from calracing:
time - amateur analysis
1:05 - horses enter the far turn
1:08 - circular quay starts outside (on rail blue orange - looks purple)
1:11 - CQ trapped inside of Birdbirdistheword (yellow on side of CQ)
1:18 - CQ still trapped horses brush
1:20 - trapped Johnny V. Slams CQ into Birdbirdistheword while yelling expletives
1:21 - CQ swings out to try to bump again but Bird is finally moving
1:35 - Velasquez cuts off birdistheturd
1:50- CQ appears to pass poorHunter after the wire

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by milliam

We are forgetting a strong angle NYRA can't catch a break anywhere, a possible Street Sense going for the crown vs a possible showdown with RTR is asking alot.

This I believe is the only thing that can stop Street Sense....The NYRA SHiatty luck theory.

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

This I believe is the only thing that can stop Street Sense....The NYRA SHiatty luck theory.

How about my shiatty luck? No beer tent, what the hell!!

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

For the record....

I certainly don't think NYRA's luck (or lack of luck) will have anything to do with the outcome on Saturday.

Interesting coming from the same guy who keeps saying that Street Sense won the Derby only by a lucky trip.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

How about my shiatty luck? No beer tent, what the hell!!

Are we having a Preakness Beer Tent?

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Are we having a Preakness Beer Tent?

Tom's...and don't you be one of these SS is freaking god people or you'll be banned from estreet...wipe yer chin off, ya got some SSSppuunnkk on it!!!!

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

Tom's...and don't you be one of these SS is freaking god people or you'll be banned from estreet...wipe yer chin off, ya got some SSSppuunnkk on it!!!!

Well..you know me..I hate chalk but some of these guys are in serious denial when it comes to how good this horse is. Every replay I looked at saw him just blow past 19 horses. Wins this race by better than 6 lengths..maybe more or I buy the first round in the Jim Dandy Bar on opening day. Glad to hear Tom is having a get together. Glad to see your computer is working.

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I have to be honest. I am somewhat curious as to what a day on estreet with you gentleman is like, especially with beer flowing.

The carnival is in town as well blocking the parking lot to OTB...with no beer tent...it might get REAL UGLY.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

The carnival is in town as well blocking the parking lot to OTB...with no beer tent...it might get REAL UGLY.

Yeah..that could be a pain in the ass. Weather looks shiatty too...oh well the beer will be cold..the vodka will be flowing..Phil will be well....Phil

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Yeah..that could be a pain in the ass. Weather looks shiatty too...oh well the beer will be cold..the vodka will be flowing..Phil will be well....Phil

MIA again...Anyways I'll let him beat me again or may not even play the race...maybe out of spite Borel should ride him 8 wide to prove all us doubters that this horse is God's gift to racing for a couple of more weeks.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

MIA again...Anyways I'll let him beat me again or may not even play the race...maybe out of spite Borel should ride him 8 wide to prove all us doubters that this horse is God's gift to racing for a couple of more weeks.

Nice signature..you really are retarded.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Do you really think people are going that ga ga over him? I mean I guess he has his fair share of fans, but you miss some real nut licking for Bernardini and Discreet Cat. We had comparisons to Secretariat for Bernardini. I think that's part of why I like Street Sense so much. Because people aren't saying he's the next coming, just that he's a good horse, who just happened to win the 2 biggest races of his generation so far.

I'm with ya Hoss...He has not gotten his due respect. I really can't see Hard Spun coming back with a big effort and I just have never been a big Curlin fan. I do think that CQ can make the exacta, but like that Justin Dew guy said It's just a little strange that they entered him only this past Monday.

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Do you really think people are going that ga ga over him? I mean I guess he has his fair share of fans, but you missed some real nut licking for Bernardini and Discreet Cat. We had comparisons to Secretariat for Bernardini. I think that's part of why I like Street Sense so much. Because people aren't saying he's the next coming, just that he's a good horse, who just happened to win the 2 biggest races of his generation so far.

I'm 100% with you on Bernardini and DC. But I think SS is well on his way with his following.