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![]() For some reason Liquidity really stands out as a contender in the Derby to me. I have been reading everyone's posts and you all seem very knowledgeable so I would appreciate any thoughts or opinions on this horse.
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#2
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![]() His one lifetime win came over an EXTREMELY speed biased track at Santa Anita, in his career debut. He took advantage of the bias that day.
He sat a good trip in the SA Derby, and had no excuse for not hitting the board as the tepid favorite in what was a low-rated running of that race. It's hard to talk people off of extreme longshots---but, even in a year like this, when the crop is unarguably weak and no one stands out---I'd be shocked if Liquidity won the race. |
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![]() To me, he looks like he doesn't want any part of ten furlongs, being unable to seal the deal at shorter distances over and over again. On top of that, he's trained by O'Neill, whose runners I don't trust to do ANYTHING outside of California.
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![]() Do I think this will happen - probably not, but I'm currently thinking there really aren't a lot you can throw out if you're playing exotics in the Derby - until we see the post draw and the horses works/demeanor leading up to Cinco De Mayo, I'm still trying to figure out how this race may play out... On the other hand, I agree that O'Neill does not ship them "ready"... but I said that about Jerry Hollendorfer until Tricky Trevor ![]()
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Even if there is a path bias in the Derby---I highly doubt it will be strong enough to propel a horse like Liquidity to victory. And, Dougie O'Neill plans to take him back, well of the pace, in the Derby---so he says anyway. As for something A-Team said---I think this talk that O'Neill can't ship is a tremendous myth. Look at Thor's Echo for example. Mistical Plan and Notional both won major races at FG for him. He can ship. |
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Thor's Echo was a pretty nice price in the Sprint I believe---and he also won the Grade 1 De Francis with disdainful ease--he couldn't seem to buy a stake win in California. |
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![]() Thanks Guys.... Also Indomitable DrugS do you have some kind of connection to Monmouth Park? I live 30 minutes from there
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I have a friend who's been begging me to pay him a visit at Monmouth Park, he and his family own horses that have raced there for a long time. But no, I live in Western PA. |
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![]() Liquidity is certainly very well bred.
Although you look at him and he does not jump out at you visually. Nakatani and Liquidity haven't really clicked at all. - Hes ridden the horse 3 times and is just now noticing that this is a one paced runner. The aggressive early run before the turn is not Liquidity's strong suit. Flores back on isn't really a negative switch in this specific case. Very little style has been developed other than pressing the lead, although he has shown that he can rate. Two poor showings out of California and is trained by O'Neill. Also some worry that he peaked in the futurity at 2yo and Holywood cushion track may be the prefered surface. |
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![]() Teuflesberg used to be my pick to finish last when I didn't think Liquidity would actually be pointed to the Derby. Liquidity is now my current pick to finish last.
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