No Wood for Circular Quay

[Sightseek]

Any Given Saturday will go instead....Pletcher to train Quay to the Kentucky Derby...

http://www.drf.com/news/article/83739.html

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Any Given Saturday will go instead....Pletcher to train Quay to the Kentucky Derby...

http://www.drf.com/news/article/83739.html

dosent make since to me, i guess nobiz gets to beat any given saturday now

[blackthroatedwind]

It's the right move with Any Given Saturday.....and a very possible precursor to an unpleasant announcement regarding Circular Quay.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Interesting.......me thinks there is something wrong with CQ that Pletcher hopes will be fixed by Derby time.

i agree, thats why i put this dosent make sense to me.....you'd have to think there is something wrong, the wood has nobiz and whatever pletcher horse runs, nothing else, if circular quay were healthy you'd have to think he'd run in this spot, he'd be favored or a very solid second choice.

[Linny]

In writing my weekly Derby article, I noticed that CQ hadn't trained since last Monday. I figured that it was due to "shipping issues" from FLA. Now I doubt that CQ should remain on top of my list.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

What are the odds that Pletcher doesn't win the Derby with any of his hopefuls???

[POINTGIVEN1985]

we could all be wrong and maybe he will just train up to the derby, but i'd say within the week there will be a annoucment made, that he is off the derby trail.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's the right move with Any Given Saturday.....and a very possible precursor to an unpleasant announcement regarding Circular Quay.

I was wondering if they figured the Wood wouldn't set up for Circular Quay...just as well, I like Any Given Saturday more.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

What are the odds that Pletcher doesn't win the Derby with any of his hopefuls???

i dont think he will win, that was before this annoucment and the ravel injury.... even with ravel and circular quay i did not think this was his year

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

What are the odds that Pletcher doesn't win the Derby with any of his hopefuls???

i'd say 50-1

[blackthroatedwind]

So, Circular Quay is supposed to be ready for the Derby off an eight week layoff and essentially one real effort this year?

Excuse me for thinking something's rotten in Denmark.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I was wondering if they figured the Wood wouldn't set up for Circular Quay...just as well, I like Any Given Saturday more.

I thought about that when I saw the entries, but it could also be a "Ravel-like" thing.

Summer Doldrums. Still to Illinois after this change? I would think.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's the right move with Any Given Saturday.....and a very possible precursor to an unpleasant announcement regarding Circular Quay.

Sadly, I believe you are on point here.

I don't see how Pletcher thinks he can win the Derby off an 8 week layoff. It's a real shame because there's a lot to like about CQ from the perspective of the "Derby profile"... distance doesn't appear to be an issue, has good speed figures, proven at 2, proven at 3, good running style, proven at CD... very disappointing. As much as I tried not to like him he has proven to me he should be at or near the top of the 3yo list.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, Circular Quay is supposed to be ready for the Derby off an eight week layoff and essentially one real effort this year?

Excuse me for thinking something's rotten in Denmark.

Hard Spun's options have been left extremely wide open as well (skip Derby or train up to it)...but we can all rest easy tonight knowing that Sedgefield may get his earnings in on Friday and therefore be in the gate the first Saturday in May.

[blackthroatedwind]

I am dubious of Sedgefield's chances Friday.

[zippyneedsawin]

this sucks.

[blackthroatedwind]

It actually makes the Wood a better race as Circular Quay was going to be dramatically affected by the lack of pace.

I hope Circular Quay isn't being kept out of any preps in order to enhance the chances of another Pletcher horse getting enough earnings for the Derby. To rob fans of matchups of top horses because he is training too many good horses is a very unfortunate price for racing to pay and a bad indicator for the future.

[cal828]

Have no clue about whether CQ is hurt or not, but sending AGS to the Wood doesn't sound like the worst plan. He seemed likely to have another gut-wrencher against Street Sense or Great Hunter in the Blue Grass and might not have gotten enough graded money to go on to the Derby. I thought it was nuts to send him to the Blue Grass in the first place. Could be wrong and usually am, but I think he will romp in the Wood.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It actually makes the Wood a better race as Circular Quay was going to be dramatically affected by the lack of pace.

I hope Circular Quay isn't being kept out of any preps in order to enhance the chances of another Pletcher horse getting enough earnings for the Derby. To rob fans of matchups of top horses because he is training too many good horses is a very unfortunate price for racing to pay and a bad indicator for the future.

I was hoping he'd run a mediocre 4th or something to get a better price on him on Derby Day as I agree, he was subjected to a likely lack of pace in this race.

If that's the motivation... SHAME ON PLETCHER. I was just thinking how he's almost got TOO many possible starters and trying to juggle them all is counterproductive. But why would he compromise his likely "top dog" if this is the case? I have to think something is wrong and if that's the truth, he shouldn't be considering running him in the Derby.

Actually, if he doesn't call an audible and send him to the Blue Grass, he shouldn't run him at all. The calvary charge isn't a place for a horse that's effectively had a 1 race campaign in 2007.