Nobizlikeshowbiz......

POINTGIVEN1985 · #1 03-01-2007, 07:56 PM

Is he beatable, at this point ? i know alot of ppl wont call any horse unbeatable.... especially one who has already lost... but at this point is this horse beatable? im not sure he is, in his career he has done nothing wrong, only loss was his second career start in a grade 1 which is a huge step up, he lost to more seasoned more experinced horses that day. since then this horse has done nothing wrong he has toyed with rivals in his 2 races since and he seems to have improved a ton. this horse can set the pace, sit close and in my opinion he could probelly come from well back. i think we might be seeing another barbaro like horse in nobiz

Cajungator26 · #2 03-01-2007, 08:01 PM

I think he gets beat on Saturday. I like Drums of Thunder a lot, and the 7 horse, Divine Master is interesting to me as well. As much as I like Scat Daddy, I think he got the raw end of the deal with that post position and it's going to be that much tougher for him.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #3 03-01-2007, 08:03 PM

miraja2 · #4 03-01-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

at this point is this horse beatable? im not sure he is.

You must be joking. Is he beatable? Secretariat and Spectacular Bid both lost in April through June of their three year old campaigns. Do you think he is THAT much better than those two? If you are really convinced that Nobiz is unbeatable.....I honestly don't know what to tell you....other than the fact that you are amazingly, unbelievably, and stunningly wrong.

Hickory Hill Hoff · #5 03-01-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I think he gets beat on Saturday. I like Drums of Thunder a lot, and the 7 horse, Divine Master is interesting to me as well. As much as I like Scat Daddy, I think he got the raw end of the deal with that post position and it's going to be that much tougher for him.

Drums of Thunder nips the "Biz" at the wire
Interesting runner is the "left coast" shipper; Stormello
looks like that's my trifecta box!

#6 03-01-2007, 09:56 PM

ADORE THE GOLD has not show his real potencial yet. As 2 years old he did the two turns with a class and his last two races has bean like a walk in the park.Dont left him out.

ArlJim78 · #7 03-01-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by luismanzo

ADORE THE GOLD has not show his real potencial yet. As 2 years old he did the two turns with a class and his last two races has bean like a walk in the park.Dont left him out.

Luis, you are correct that he did the two turns at two, but there are some things to note. That was a relatively weak stakes race, and only a six horse field at Delaware Park where they didn't exactly run real fast in the early stages.
The shape of his next races scream sprinter to me. I am very very sceptical that he will be effective at this level going 9 furlongs. The outside draw seals the deal for me. I don't see him hitting the board.

#8 03-01-2007, 10:20 PM

I bet Prado will driving in the correct time (off the pace) because I see that most of his evolution has been controling his speed. Regarding the post condition, that will ad the gratification of his effort if he wins.

POINTGIVEN1985 · #9 03-01-2007, 11:13 PM

no way .... nobiz wins for fun, open lenghts ... 4 plus

MisterB · #10 03-02-2007, 06:29 AM

The Biz is a Big horse, and can make just big gentle strides. Has a big rear end too. I think Cornelio lets him out a notch Saturday, and shows he is king that day.

Dunbar · #11 03-02-2007, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

Is he beatable, at this point ? i know alot of ppl wont call any horse unbeatable.... especially one who has already lost... but at this point is this horse beatable? im not sure he is, in his career he has done nothing wrong, only loss was his second career start in a grade 1 which is a huge step up, he lost to more seasoned more experinced horses that day. since then this horse has done nothing wrong he has toyed with rivals in his 2 races since and he seems to have improved a ton. this horse can set the pace, sit close and in my opinion he could probelly come from well back. i think we might be seeing another barbaro like horse in nobiz

Of course he's beatable. The only question is what are his fair odds? Would you truly not take 3-1 on the Field in this race?

--Dunbar

Rudeboyelvis · #12 03-02-2007, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterB

The Biz is a Big horse, and can make just big jentle strides. Has a big rear end too. I think Cornelio lets him out a notch Saturday, and shows he is king that day.

this is what I've heard from some at GP that saw him work. He is like a man amoung boys compared to the other 3yo's...Can't really see anyone beating him, But Drums gave him a fair chase last out, would expect the same. I would really have liked to see Adore the Gold draw a better post, but at this point it's gotta be No Biz's race to lose. It is going to be an exciting race to watch for sure.

POINTGIVEN1985 · #13 03-02-2007, 07:48 AM

dunbar in this spot i would never take 3-1 on the field, i am not one to bet chalk but nobiz does not lose this saturday

#14 03-02-2007, 07:56 AM

I agree with pointgiven, No Biz has done nothing wrong at this point. Any horse can lose on any given day, however, even in the race he finished second, he had a bad trip and was probably best that day as well.

randallscott35 · #15 03-02-2007, 07:59 AM

I like the horse a lot and I'm a fan of Tagg. But to ask whether he can be beaten is ridiculous. Of course he can, he hasn't shown any world beater talent yet. Maybe he will, but right now he is a good horse in a below average crop.

POINTGIVEN1985 · #16 03-02-2007, 08:03 AM

i think your wrong, i think he's close to unbeatable

Dunbar · #17 03-02-2007, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

dunbar in this spot i would never take 3-1 on the field, i am not one to bet chalk but nobiz does not lose this saturday

Are you saying you will NOT bet him? That makes no sense to me, given the rest of your thinking. He will certainly go off at better than 1-3. If 3-1 on the Field is not a good bet, then 1-3 on NoBiz is a good bet. Jump on it.

--Dunbar

POINTGIVEN1985 · #18 03-02-2007, 08:16 AM

i would never play a 1-5 shot to win, but i am keying him in a heavy pick 4 around him, and also the pick 6 ... those are my plays this sat. pick 4 and 6 with him keyed

miraja2 · #19 03-02-2007, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar

Are you saying you will NOT bet him? That makes no sense to me, given the rest of your thinking. He will certainly go off at better than 1-3. If 3-1 on the Field is not a good bet, then 1-3 on NoBiz is a good bet. Jump on it.

--Dunbar

Don't waste your time trying to figure out his thinking. I mean he should be betting every dime he has on this horse to win if he really thinks the horse is unbeatable.
Calling any horse "unbeatable" is idiotic.
Calling a horse that has already been beaten "unbeatable" is just funny....and still idiotic.

miraja2 · #20 03-02-2007, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i would never play a 1-5 shot to win

Why not? According to you, this horse is unbeatable right? So betting him is just like picking up free money! Who cares about odds if you are betting on an unbeatable horse?
Or wait a second....is it possible that he actually is beatable?