Beyer on the newest wise guy

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Filthy damn unraced-maiden races. The absolute sewer portion of the sport.

Man, one of my favorite scores of all time was an unraced filly out of Nashua that went off at around 20-1 in the 3rd race at Hialeah back in about 1979.

Maidens, and a short race. Something else I liked about her besides the Nashua-filly connection. It might have been the jockey. In those days, if a jockey by the name of Wayne Crews was on a horse in a short race, the horse ALWAYS deserved a 2nd and 3rd look. Crews came up on the quarter horse tracks and with little notice was the best "gate jockey" in South Florida in those days.

A perfect storm of wagering in those spring days of south Florida.....pre wagering technology.

Anyhow, I had some nice dog track trifecta $$ from the night before, and ended up with a wild $200 on the nose bet on the Nashua filly.

She won of course. Otherwise I wouldn't remember this story 28 years later!

I went and bought a good bottle of liquor with my proceeds, and spent the next three days with the prettiest girl I knew in Fort Lauderdale at the time.

She was a solid favorite.

We ordered in quite a bit that weekend.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I begged him not to write that story.

figured as much, and had 2nd thoughts of posting it, but figured that once it was on DRF, the cat was out of the bag.

As far as another trainer getting one of the horses and running it in that trainers name goes; last year a guy I knew put me on to a horse that was from Fingers and shipped in to NY and was running under another trainers name. He found it out by going back to a past FL race and saw who the trainer was. However; I have to agree with CS that there are some definite holes in the story. Maybe Andy only wrote part of the story, heard from a MD friend that he isn't having the best of wagering years.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by point given

figured as much, and had 2nd thoughts of posting it, but figured that once it was on DRF, the cat was out of the bag.

As far as another trainer getting one of the horses and running it in that trainers name goes; last year a guy I knew put me on to a horse that was from Fingers and shipped in to NY and was running under another trainers name. He found it out by going back to a past FL race and saw who the trainer was. However; I have to agree with CS that there are some definite holes in the story. Maybe Andy only wrote part of the story, heard from a MD friend that he isn't having the best of wagering years.

I think he wrote the whole story. And, you can tell your friend in Maryland he's wrong, Beyer's been doing very well so far this year.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think he wrote the whole story. And, you can tell your friend in Maryland he's wrong, Beyer's been doing very well so far this year.

Ouch . Didnot mean to step on toes. I'm sure Andy does just fine for himself. You Andys gotta stick together.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by point given

Ouch . Didnot mean to step on toes. I'm sure Andy does just fine for himself. You Andys gotta stick together.

No problem...you just got misinformation.

[MISTERGEE]

Wonder Why Same Stable 2 Different Trainers. I Am Assuming It Is Not A Stable With Many Horses. Also, Do Any Of You Buy That Crap About Not Caring About Cashing On $60 Or $70 Debut Winners?

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

Wonder Why Same Stable 2 Different Trainers. I Am Assuming It Is Not A Stable With Many Horses. Also, Do Any Of You Buy That Crap About Not Caring About Cashing On $60 Or $70 Debut Winners?

I believe the story went that he didn't have enough stalls for his horses, so he had him in a Dubis Chaparoo stall. This type of stuff can play real havoc with trainer stats . We will never know about the "caring" thing though, although I hear he will have a new column in the DRF , "Ask Gisiuppe' "

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That was that Grand horse that won the Pennsylvania Derby and was sold to Godolphin.

These guys won with TWO firsters and another claimer putover.

Not very hard to put one over when your training at Classic Mile in Ocala when there is no clocker. You put what you want for the workouts. I believe Grand Hombre had 4 works of a half mile. Each slower than 52..lol..I myself would have put some obscure jockey on(not Prado) I believe he went 1:08 and change, so any jock would have done fine that day...

Just another reason why Andy Beyer is God.

:::runs away from all the Beyer haters:::



Seriously though, I love when he calls up these unknown owners to get to the bottom of the things. Dude is a good kind of paranoid.

Excellent read, thanks for posting it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by merasmag

what's so strange about the same owners having 2 or more trainers??? happens all the time as far as i know...i am just glad (bummed) collision scratched, i was on my way to bet on him when i found out

Its strange when the owner IS a trainer

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by merasmag

baffert is an owner and trainer, i hate owner/trainer combos, it's like a lawyer having a fool for a client or a physician trying to heal herself...kiss of death at balmoral, imo

yo, cause i am on a roll,

help with the kiss of death at balmoral angle

[GPK]

Originally Posted by merasmag

baffert is an owner and trainer, i hate owner/trainer combos, it's like a lawyer having a fool for a client or a physician trying to heal herself...kiss of death at balmoral, imo

Shar....gotta disagree with ya hun. Owner/Driver/Trainer in harness is huge angle to play.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by merasmag

i knew baffert was a bad example but i don't know the obscure guys names...as to balmoral, i will stick by my guns...but by the time those puppies come on i'm just goin by numbers, heitman and anthony morgan

um kiddo...Tony Morgan aint riding there anymore. He's at Dover Downs..has been for a while