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Old 12-29-2006, 02:20 PM
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While I respect your math. The only time a 3 race parlay is comparable to a pk 3 is when you make a straight pk3. Because most pk 3 and 4 players widen there ticket to include some tomake iut a nice play. As an example I hit one at Bel in the last meet with 3 horses that were about 5/1 and spent $18 it paid 3,800. A example and not the norm but this is the chance you take. No way would I have taken the approximately 200 and put it on the nose of the 3rd leg but I invested the 18 in the pk 3. This is what helps make the races great, the many cobos you can come up with in wagering.
I understand that. But this assumes you are going to bet on 3 races or 4 races in a row and that is a horrible assumption as I said to scuds and Oracle. If you have to bet on 3 or 4 races in a row, then go the pik route. But the huge assumption you are making is by comparing a pik to a parlay. Thats a false comparison. A pik bet is ONE bet. Not everyone wants to bet 3 or 4 races in a row separately and if they do, the pik is the way to go. I went thru a list of about 5 reasons concerning pik bets, and I finally got Oracle to agree. I guess the word touche means I see your point in his parlance. And I think Scuds might have seen what I saying. There is more, I only gave one point above... but I just got real tired of repeating myself over and over with the others.
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:23 PM
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With the computer tech now available, I feel that the tracks have the capability to display the number of live tickets available on various legs of pk3-3 and sixes. If this was available it would help eliminat a scam,shuch as the 1 we had at the BC a few years back. Someone couldnt sudenly have a live pk6 after the 4th race.
But you could never get a screen big enough to look thru all the possible combinations and the beginning of a pik bet to assess risk v. reward to begin with. Unless you had 3, three horse races in a row in a pik 3. (Imagine the huge payoff in that horrible scenario)
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Old 12-30-2006, 01:24 AM
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But you could never get a screen big enough to look thru all the possible combinations and the beginning of a pik bet to assess risk v. reward to begin with. Unless you had 3, three horse races in a row in a pik 3. (Imagine the huge payoff in that horrible scenario)
I am refering to just the number of tickets that are live. Not the differnt combinationsthat are remaining in the upcomming legs Im not asking for them to give all the combination and probable pays , just the number of live tickets after each leg of pk 3,4 and 6.
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Old 12-30-2006, 09:34 AM
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I am refering to just the number of tickets that are live. Not the differnt combinationsthat are remaining in the upcomming legs Im not asking for them to give all the combination and probable pays , just the number of live tickets after each leg of pk 3,4 and 6.
I guess you would really want the amount of money that is alive, not the number of tickets. That way you could compare it to the original pool and have a better idea of what the payoff would be. That definitely could be done. The last leg of a pik usually has the estimated payoff (ie live money before the last leg but after the other results are known), at least at the track I frequent.

My original point was that you still have no idea where you are when you first bet and no race has been run. If it was possible to get a number on your odds before you make the pik bet, that would be the best. But I really dont know how that could be done.
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