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View Poll Results: Desert Warrior Storm Cat's legacy ?
yes 4 11.76%
no 4 11.76%
maybe 1 2.94%
Storm Cat is embarassed by this 25 73.53%
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Old 02-12-2009, 04:09 AM
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Desert Warrior, standing in NY . A truly spectacular genetic and physical mix of all that is great from our beloved hero Storm Cat .

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Old 02-12-2009, 05:10 AM
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This post makes about the least sense of any post I've seen since that drunk chick that used to post here posted here.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:13 AM
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I have three Desert Warriors. I'm faster than at least two of them. I've crossed him off the list.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:18 AM
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Dude you really are a special individual...Why any stallion resides in NY is beyond me. All you have to do is have them drop in NY and they are NY Breds so what is the point of these ridiculous no talent stallions standing in obsure NY State?
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:40 AM
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Dude you really are a special individual...Why any stallion resides in NY is beyond me. All you have to do is have them drop in NY and they are NY Breds so what is the point of these ridiculous no talent stallions standing in obsure NY State?
From the stallion owner's perpective, the stallion award portion of the NY Breeding Fund is pretty generous; the stallion owner gets a percentage of all progeny earnings in NY. In some cases, it's better to get the mares here in NY and then get the stallion awards when the offspring run than be lost in the shuffle in a place like KY.

From the breeders' perspective, the incentives to breed to a NY stallion are far less. Certainly, if you want to get a yearling in the summer sales at Saratoga, you almost have to have a NY-bred by a KY-sire (unless your last name is Thomas or McMahon).
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:44 AM
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From the stallion owner's perpective, the stallion award portion of the NY Breeding Fund is pretty generous; the stallion owner gets a percentage of all progeny earnings in NY. In some cases, it's better to get the mares here in NY and then get the stallion awards when the offspring run than be lost in the shuffle in a place like KY.

From the breeders' perspective, the incentives to breed to a NY stallion are far less. Certainly, if you want to get a yearling in the summer sales at Saratoga, you almost have to have a NY-bred by a KY-sire (unless your last name is Thomas or McMahon).
Do away with stallion awards...Put that money back into the purses for owners.. Turn the stupid stallion farms with crappy stallions back into corn fields like they belong.. Fn waste of time standing 1250 dollar slow ass stallions that produce slow ass horses that are as common as a Hunts point hooker
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Is the NY program conceived and foaled or just foaled?

Illinois has two different programs, conceived and foaled and just foaled and Owners and Breeders awards are different based on those two instances.
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Is the NY program conceived and foaled or just foaled?

Illinois has two different programs, conceived and foaled and just foaled and Owners and Breeders awards are different based on those two instances.
The NY program is NY-foaled. However, certain program awards differ depending on whether the stallion is based in NY or not. For example, with open company owner awards, the owner gets 20% of the horse's share of the purse if the stallion stands in NY, as opposed to 10% if the stallion does not stand in NY.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:10 PM
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Is the NY program conceived and foaled or just foaled?

Illinois has two different programs, conceived and foaled and just foaled and Owners and Breeders awards are different based on those two instances.
Hear is an idea my 3 year old NY Bred gelding that DrugS con'd me into buying vs. your Illnois bred.. will do a home and home at Hawthorne and Finger Lakes...winner gets a bag of carrots
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I think it's time to eliminate "NY bred" awards for the out of state stallions . Don't you think a NY bred should be a foal conceived and foaled in NY ?

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Old 02-12-2009, 01:28 PM
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I think it's time to eliminate "NY bred" awards for the out of state stallions . Don't you think a NY bred should be a foal conceived and foaled in NY ?

http://www.bloodhorse.com/NOW/Breedi...ion=New%20York
No. Eliminating the breed-back rule about 10 years ago is the reason that we've seen NY-breds like Funny Cide, Commentator, and Carson Hollow in recent years, and the list goes on and on. We don't need a return to the way things were in the 1980s.
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Old 02-12-2009, 02:03 PM
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No. Eliminating the breed-back rule about 10 years ago is the reason that we've seen NY-breds like Funny Cide, Commentator, and Carson Hollow in recent years, and the list goes on and on. We don't need a return to the way things were in the 1980s.
Exactly. I think the program is one of the best in the country. No need to try to screw it up.
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This post makes about the least sense of any post I've seen since that drunk chick that used to post here posted here.
I don't know what the hell is wrong with Sumitas and how he can be so damn stupid. But my best guess is that he either has a nail lodged in his skull .. or that he's friends with Justin Dew.
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Yipppe all we need is some more unsound , unable to breath hot-blooded stupid Storm Cat's , breed on.
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Old 02-12-2009, 03:43 PM
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I know.

After all, If it wasn't for Storm Cat ... we'd have never needed synthetic tracks.
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Old 02-12-2009, 03:45 PM
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I know.

After all, If it wasn't for Storm Cat ... we'd have never needed synthetic tracks.

Amen bruddah.
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Yipppe all we need is some more unsound , unable to breath hot-blooded stupid Storm Cat's , breed on.

I may be confused, but I'm not sure why Desert Warrior is the next Storm Cat... he's by Deputy Minister out of a Secretariat mare. I realize that Secretariat is the broodmare sire for both horses, and they both have Northern Dancer somewhere in there male side.... but dont most horses?!? LOL

I dunno I just dont know what Desert Warrior and Storm Cat have to do with each other.
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Old 02-12-2009, 04:49 PM
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okay.... nevermind

Warriors dam is a full sister to Storm Cats dam... now i see it!
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I dunno I just dont know what Desert Warrior and Storm Cat have to do with each other.
Desert Warrior's dam, Navajo Pass, is a full-sister to Terlingua, the dam of Storm Cat. The similarities, however, end there.
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And all this time I thought this thread was about Golden Missile.
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