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06-19-2006, 11:19 AM
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Met Steve Crist yesterday
at Arlington. Dude is so comedy looking, he was signing his exoctic book or whatever, talked to him about Arlington (he doesn't follow them one bit)....
it is ridiculous what some people are paid to do in this world, it really is 
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06-19-2006, 11:26 AM
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06-19-2006, 11:30 AM
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How can a big name like this not know anything about Arlington. It might not be one of your Tier 1 courses, but it is a close second. If those guys get paid anything let me know, I am ready to bring you all insight and tidbits from Great Lakes Downs. I feel I am qualified, I spend alot of nights drinking with the top trainer!!!! LOL
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06-19-2006, 11:30 AM
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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06-19-2006, 11:39 AM
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I didn't mean it in a negative way, to get into this industry it takes some stones, aggressiveness, a couple risks and some luck.....he was a nice guy and he obviously has a clue. Hersh is another guy that is a good guy, I was talking with him in the press box yesterday, his handicapping is suspect but his writing is really good
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06-19-2006, 11:45 AM
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I think his new book is really good, I am a little more than half way through it, but it's helpful. He states the obvious, but it's stuff I have missed. Like when spreading of p3's or p4's, we were giving equal weight to all of the winners, when that might not be the case, we think a longshot could win, but for the most part we thought the others had a better chance to win, so you press those.
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06-19-2006, 12:19 PM
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These guys are all parasites.Make money off of horseplayers(not for them.)
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06-19-2006, 11:31 AM
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Scav you are way off on this one, way off.
Crist knows this game, and served in NYRA managemnet for a while. But his immediate contributions to guys like you who love to cap are the innovations in the DRF that wouldn't be there without him. He started a rival to the DRF, the Racing Times, that eventually was bought out by DRF. From this paper came the idea to put Beyers in the Drf, and under Crist's guidance came things now taken for granted in there like mud and turf ratings, lifetime stats for horses on all surfaces, at specific tracks, and at specific distances. Also purchase prices of horses at auction, trainer and jockey stats, trainer switches noted, workouts given in a ranking order as to how many horses worked at that distance and how fast they were compared to others, and many more. Without Crist you would be reading the DRf in its archaic form without all the stats that you know have and all that info. Hes a horseplayer first and foremost, and has given his share back to the players with all the work he has done making the DRF the info filled publication that it is. Last edited by oracle80 : 06-19-2006 at 01:55 PM.
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06-19-2006, 11:36 AM
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I've read "betting on myself", gotta admit I like the guy. If you hadn't got a chance to read it, I reccomend it, puts the whole DRF world in a different light.
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06-19-2006, 11:40 AM
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I can't read his article because I am not a paying member, but I think I have the DRF from the weekend in my car. As for his salary, I bet he makes well over $100k a year when you count everything. His salary from the DRF, his book and public appearances etc etc etc.
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06-19-2006, 11:29 AM
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ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that Steve Crist is paid, he's earned through his own pluck, initiative and force of will. Read his book "Betting on Myself", and you'll come away with a tremendous respect and appreciation for what he's accomplished in his life. (SIDEBAR: And everyone should read his weekend DRF piece on the laughable 'RFP' by the State of New York... 'BTW' pointed it out to me over the weekend, and it says everything that needs to be said. Also gives you an idea, if you have imagination, of what will transpire from here forward with NYRA...)
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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