Count Fleet

For those who are close to the New York racing scene, how does Johannesburg Star look? How does Kiaran's horse look like - No Reply I think if his name? Basically, anyone have any good information to share regarding this race?

[Kasept]

Sir Whimsey..

[jpops757]

If Jstar runs back to his last, does he move to a top contender? Will the offers top the 2M already offered?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Sir Whimsey..

Steve -
What are your thoughts on Believeinmenow?

Would he be a sheets play against for successively moving up a decent amount (by beyers, a 24 and 25 figure each time) vs. gradually moving up each race?

[blackthroatedwind]

I think No Reply lays over the field. Only slop would keep me from taking anything over 9:5. I hope they fall for Johannesburg Star, who isn't impossible but not likely, and somehow No Reply is second choice.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Steve -
What are your thoughts on Believeinmenow?

Not to answer for Byk, but IMO he's about the worst horse in the race and the one of the least likely winners.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Not to answer for Byk, but IMO he's about the worst horse in the race and the one of the least likely winners.

Is he one of the horses who really benefited from the bias?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Is he one of the horses who really benefited from the bias?

Yes and he can't clear here.

[Linny]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Is he one of the horses who really benefited from the bias?

Yes, he galloped home in front on a day when every single race was a wire job. Only 3 horses actually passed rivals in the lane that day. I can honestly say I'd never seen a more biased ractrack. Out of that race, I'd prefer Sir Whimsey, who chased.
No Reply looks pretty good though.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Magnanimous

I think this horse can take Jimmy Bond to the Derby.

I think he'll be empty long before he hits West Virginia.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Gander

Pink Viper looks like the winner, but he will be 3/5ish type odds.

Again, you're wayyyy off base on this. He'll be at LEAST 10-1.

[GinaIsWild]

Originally Posted by Gander

Pink Viper looks like the winner, but he will be 3/5ish type odds.

He is a goat, how can you endorse such an obviously overmatched horse?

[outofthebox]

I think this "goat" can hit the board here. I like the post and i think the track is made to "order"".

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

I think this "goat" can hit the board here. I like the post and i think the track is made to "order"".

He sure didn't get the cleverest of rides or trips last time and is in a great position tomorrow to get something. I doubt he's good enough to win, not that you implied that at all, but I also think he can hit the board. I would take a price in a prop against Johannesburg Star.

I guess it depends a bit on the track though I would guess you would be happy with mud. Besides his muddy track effort the randomness that associates itself with off-tracks works in your favor.

[outofthebox]

He was flat last race. I know the track was "inside", but he wasn't going to do much that day. He is fresh, and had a good blowout for the race. The favorite hasn't worked since his maiden, and was planned to do so earlier this week but CC Lopez pulled him up before the breeze for one reason or another. I fear No Reply in here. He will have to adjust to the quicker pace though...

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

He was flat last race. I know the track was "inside", but he wasn't going to do much that day. He is fresh, and had a good blowout for the race. The favorite hasn't worked since his maiden, and was planned to do so earlier this week but CC Lopez pulled him up before the breeze for one reason or another. I fear No Reply in here. He will have to adjust to the quicker pace though...

Congrats, very nice win.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Jfeld

He is a goat, how can you endorse such an obviously overmatched horse?

That is the biggest and fastest goat I have ever seen!!!!
Great call buddy.

[GinaIsWild]

Originally Posted by miraja2

That is the biggest and fastest goat I have ever seen!!!!
Great call buddy.

You can have that entire field, the whole group was STAGGERING down the lane and there isn't one of them who won't be running for a tag by summer. That being said, nice job by the winners but, he's no Achilles of Troy so, hopefully there won't be any "he's our derby horse articles" like last winter courtesy of Dave Grening and the Paraneck braintrust. Unless Pedersen and Amonte get involved. Then it will at least be entertaining.

[Rudeboyelvis]

note to C.C. Lopez -

Going 4 wide into the stretch on the inner will guarantee you 2nd on the best horse.

But you already know that...

[DCracing]

Originally Posted by Jfeld

You can have that entire field, the whole group was STAGGERING down the lane and there isn't one of them who won't be running for a tag by summer. That being said, nice job by the winners but, he's no Achilles of Troy so, hopefully there won't be any "he's our derby horse articles" like last winter courtesy of Dave Grening and the Paraneck braintrust. Unless Pedersen and Amonte get involved. Then it will at least be entertaining.

Hold on Mr. President! Maybe Pink Viper can! Come May, we are either going to be surprised or not. Really I just miss Jennifer Pedersen and look forward to her return. As a $2 bettor and someone who loves to watch them run, I have noticed a lot of Paraneck action at this winter's meet...can't they afford to fly to FLA? Lol...i am hoping for a May surprise too!

"Jennifer Pedersen (2004 Song of the Sword, 11th): The 41-year-old Pedersen made history, along with 21-year-old Kristin Mulhall, who became the first females to saddle horses in the same Derby in 130 years. Pedersen Also saddles two Preakness horses; Griffinite in 2001 and New York Hero in 2003."