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Old 11-21-2006, 04:28 PM
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Default Ad Hoc Commitee reccos Excelsior

http://www.drf.com/news/article/80659.html

First step in the long process..
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:30 PM
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http://www.drf.com/news/article/80659.html

First step in the long process..
Gee there's a shock huh? LOL!!
Did anyone think they wouldn't?
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:32 PM
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Gee there's a shock huh? LOL!!
Did anyone think they wouldn't?
They were a cinch.

Empire couldn't even win a meaningless war. Gotta give the Ad-Hoc committee some credit for seeing through them.
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:42 PM
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They were a cinch.

Empire couldn't even win a meaningless war. Gotta give the Ad-Hoc committee some credit for seeing through them.

Yeah I mean, all those parties this past summer in saratoga where the ad hoc guys were sitting with the Excelsior guys at the dinner table have nothing to do with this!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:50 PM
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In a two horse race between Richard Bomze and George Steinbrenner who did anyone think would win?
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:56 PM
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In a two horse race between Richard Bomze and George Steinbrenner who did anyone think would win?
LOL!!!! Thats hysterical!!!!
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:18 PM
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In a two horse race between Richard Bomze and George Steinbrenner who did anyone think would win?
If the race was chug a lug I'd take Bomze
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:09 PM
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First step in the long process..
Here's the take from the Bloodhorse.

" Excelsior said it would pay New York state $100 million up front and another $7.5 million over the 20 year life of the franchise "


http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36474

ALSO from the T'Bred Times

"Panel members favored Excelsior's plan to run racing on a non-profit basis and keep it separate from video lottery terminal operations at Aqueduct and possibly Belmont. Empire was the only firm whose business plan called for a for-profit enterprise."

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/tod...67909&subsec=1

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Old 11-21-2006, 05:22 PM
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Here's the take from the Bloodhorse.

" Excelsior said it would pay New York state $100 million up front and another $7.5 million over the 20 year life of the franchise "


http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36474
If they take that deal then the whole Ad hock group should be brought up on charges. $250 million for the franchise? If I knew it was going to be THAT cheap I'd would have borrowed the $ from Dixie and bid myself!!
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:39 PM
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If they take that deal then the whole Ad hock group should be brought up on charges. $250 million for the franchise? If I knew it was going to be THAT cheap I'd would have borrowed the $ from Dixie and bid myself!!

Who do you think Excelsior really is?
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:29 PM
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Who do you think Excelsior really is?
Spitzer's boy Fields and a couple of billionaires
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:38 PM
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Let's see they could have awarded it to a corrupt group like NYRA who didn't even offer to pay the $100 million unless certain conditions were met, or they can give it to the guys with integrity who offered to pay $100 million with no conditions and pay for more than $50 million in pension debt owed by NYRA.

Under a complex scoring system, Excelsior scored 94.6 in areas that included integrity and responsibility, financial viability and details that included plans for renovations of tracks and how to improving the racing industry while attracting more bettors to tracks. Empire scored 93 and NYRA scored 76.5 points. Real close. LOL.


Jack Knowlton was on the committee. Good enough for me. Nobody cares more about NY racing than the guy who owns the only NY bred Kentucky Derby winner.

BYE BYE NYRA.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:30 PM
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Zieg I hear on the next committee they are gonna have the guy who owns Organizer, the horse who won the Empire Classic where Funny Cide was 4th.
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Old 11-21-2006, 11:03 PM
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Here is my question -- would Jack Knowlton have been named to the committee had he not owned Funny Cide?

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Old 11-21-2006, 11:07 PM
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Here is my question -- would Jack Knowlton have been named to the committee had he not owned Funny Cide?

Eric

Of course not.

However, he was probably way above the average as far as horse racing knowledge on that committee.

It is very sad for those of us that love this game, and genuinely care about racing in NY State, to see the shoddy treatment it receives from the State. The government isn't just happy with the money they take out of handle, they have to further insult as by filling pretty much any and all positions with the wives of donors.

At least we used to have Ben Liebman. Pataki took care of that.
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:29 AM
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What everyone is failing to realize is that the committee means nothing. It is all political. The decision might go the same way but the people on the committee have no say in who is rewarded the franchise.
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Old 11-22-2006, 07:53 AM
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What everyone is failing to realize is that the committee means nothing. It is all political. The decision might go the same way but the people on the committee have no say in who is rewarded the franchise.

Gee thanks. Nobody has pointed this out.

What some people fail to realize is how obvious " new " posters are.
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