guliani takes first prez step

Danzig · #1 11-14-2006, 04:21 AM

setting up an exploratory committee...this from the article:

'Giuliani has said for months that he would wait until after the 2006 elections to decide whether to embark on a White House bid. The former mayor is a moderate who supports gun control, same-sex civil unions, embryonic stem-cell research and abortion rights — stands that would put him at odds with the majority of the GOP conservative base'

sounds like my kinda guy! we'll see tho...mitt romney also mentioned as a possible, and he of course is the guy who got the health care ball rolling in massachusetts.

GenuineRisk · #2 11-14-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

setting up an exploratory committee...this from the article:

'Giuliani has said for months that he would wait until after the 2006 elections to decide whether to embark on a White House bid. The former mayor is a moderate who supports gun control, same-sex civil unions, embryonic stem-cell research and abortion rights — stands that would put him at odds with the majority of the GOP conservative base'

sounds like my kinda guy! we'll see tho...mitt romney also mentioned as a possible, and he of course is the guy who got the health care ball rolling in massachusetts.

Except that at a stump speech a few months back he spoke out against gun-control-- and so the McCain flip-flopping begins... I'm going to wait and see where he stands on issues eight months from now.

And so the run to 2008 begins, eh?

somerfrost · #3 11-14-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Except that at a stump speech a few months back he spoke out against gun-control-- and so the McCain flip-flopping begins... I'm going to wait and see where he stands on issues eight months from now.

And so the run to 2008 begins, eh?

Well, I suspect it quietly began about two years ago but certainly it will pick up speed now! I still support Hillary and Obama among the Dems, Rice in the Elephant party...although Rudy is a decent sort and I like the man personally, if he would win the nomination and the Dems do something utterly stupid...like nominate Kerry or Algore again...I could vote for the man!

Danzig · #4 11-14-2006, 10:12 AM

oops..see what happens when you read something at four am? i thought it said he was for gun rights. glad he flipped on that one then.

GenuineRisk · #5 11-14-2006, 01:46 PM

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oops..see what happens when you read something at four am? i thought it said he was for gun rights. glad he flipped on that one then.

But my question is, has he honestly flipped, or is he just saying what he thinks will get him elected? After watching McCain turn into such a wuss, it'd be a shame to see it happen again.

I'm not a Giuliani fan because of him demanding to be put in charge of the 9/11 money that came in and then putting his buddies into six-figure salaried positions handling it, but I figure that will come out into the full public view if he gets the nom, so I'm not thinking much about it.

Sure hope he's got more political smarts than his buddy Kerik did!

Danzig · #6 11-14-2006, 02:19 PM

well, who knows? they all talk to whoever is in the audience at the moment anyway. he doesn't seem afraid to be pro-choice, which is certainly not normal for a republican.
BUT seems the general thinking about guns have changed. so maybe he has changed his mind.
thing is, you have a right to own a gun. doesn't mean you have to own one! also, gun control only impacts those who follow the laws. what the heck, a criminal is going to rob a bank anyway--but he's going to have the scruples to not use a gun because THAT'S illegal?! don't think so.