Gomez ??????????????????

What has happened to this guy ???
I did a thread on his accomplishments with the three year olds
a little while back, evidencing his prowess in turning them into winners, then he goes off to dubai and has turned to crap since his return. he was anextra incentive to pick a horse, now he is the extra incentive to pass on his horse.
what a terrible ride on Bobandjohn in the belmont.

Did he really think he could win the belmont
on the lead for 10f. what an idiot ???

[Scav]

Paul, you hit that pick four? you touted it???

Originally Posted by Scav

Paul, you hit that pick four? you touted it???

yes i did scavs, it paid almost 4 to 1, its a great bet, will play it every chance i get, its number one with a bullet, like it better than the dime supers. its almost like pick 4 insurance, because your picks can win palce or show in the first three legs, go long in the fourth leg,
BAM...
your a winner !

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

What has happened to this guy ???
I did a thread on his accomplishments with the three year olds
a little while back, evidencing his prowess in turning them into winners, then he goes off to dubai and has turned to crap since his return. he was anextra incentive to pick a horse, now he is the extra incentive to pass on his horse.
what a terrible ride on Bobandjohn in the belmont.

Did he really think he could win the belmont
on the lead for 10f. what an idiot ???

I don't know if Gomez thought that or not. But I read a Baffert post-race quote where he said that he thought Bob and John's best chance to win the Belmont was to try to steal it on the lead. After reading that, I have to assume that Gomez was just trying to follow the trainer's plan.

--Dunbar

Originally Posted by Dunbar

I don't know if Gomez thought that or not. But I read a Baffert post-race quote where he said that he thought Bob and John's best chance to win the Belmont was to try to steal it on the lead. After reading that, I have to assume that Gomez was just trying to follow the trainer's plan.

--Dunbar

thats the dumbest thing i have read on this meaasage board, try to steal the belmont on the lead with 30 MPH wind gusts.

stupidity...

[Scav]

Oh you hit the grand slam?

Everyone thought you hit the pick four that paid over $900

no ididn't play the national pick4, i would have lost.

it seesm everyone that bets on this board is always looking for the 4 digit payout.
try to string together four 250 payouts, that works too.

if i had tried the national pick4, i would have had to string 6 in the 11th, too much, the grand slam was 20 and an easy win.

had i palyed it for all the money i would have used in the national pick 4, i would have made 300, not just 95.

Paul you can't blame Gomez for trying to steal the race. I thought it was a great attempt. With High Finanace the only other speed in the race and his qulaity very much at question in stakes company, making the lead was a bright attempt. Just wasn't the horses day. But I gotta give Gomez a lot of credit for trying. He was aggressive but the fractions were sensible. I can't blame him for trying.

[Rupert Pupkin]

I agree with several of the points of view here. I agree with Oracle that the horse did not run well and would not have won no matter how he was ridden. That being said, I think the horse went way too fast. I don't know if you can blame GG though. As other have said, it may have been Baffert's decision to go to the lead. I think it is a huge mistake to ever decide what you're going to do before the race. It's fine to have an idea of what you want to do and how you think the race will unfold. But I would never want a jockey or trainer to decide on a strategy and stick to it no matter what. It's one thing if you have a speed horse that cannot be rated. Then you may not have a choice. B&J does not fit in that category. He never goes to the lead.
If you have a horse that looks like he might be able to get a relatively easy lead, then here is what I would tell the jockey: "Try to break well and get him running early. If you can get a pretty easy lead in reasonable fractions, then do it. If others guys are gunning for the lead, then take back and let them have the lead."
I think it's important to let the jockey play things by ear depending on how the race unfolds. The races don't always unfold the way you plan. That is why it is important for the jockey to be flexible.
Anyway, if it was Gomez' decision to go to the lead in those fractions, then I think it was a very bad decision. However, we don't know if it was his decision. It may have been Baffert's decision. As early as the horse gave it up though, I don't think it would have mattered how the horse was ridden. The horse was not going to hit the board.