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Old 10-11-2013, 04:24 PM
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One the greatest confrontations between awesome horses with layoff lines happened...and in Japan of all places.

October 11th 1998:

You had Silence Suzuka, an invincible 4-year-old, under 130lbs, who was incredibly good since his connections allowed him to run-off in the early stages of races.




You had El Condor Pasa, a sensational 3-year-old, under 126lbs.




And you had a former two-year-old champion, Grass Wonder, making his 3yo debut under 121lbs. Grass Wonder is a full brother to multiple Grade 1 winning US millionaire Wonder Again.





Such a great race to watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulekp5jedFM


Silence Suzuka was cutting back from 11 furlongs, where he had just lasted in a Grade 1 victory over Stay Gold (the sire of two-time Arc de Triomphe second place finisher, Orfevre)

Normally out in front by a city block, Silence Suzuka was only a few lengths clear early. The crowd got very excited when Grass Wonder made a move on the far turn, he faded to fifth. El Condor Pasa surged for second but never even remotely threatened the winner.

Look at the subsequent form for those horses. Silence Suzuka broke down on a 12 length lead in an important Gr 1 race in his next start.

El Condor Pasa firmly established himself as one of the greatest Japanese horses ever. He shipped six-thousand miles to race in Europe, and beat an all-star Group 1 field there over good ground.

Soundly beaten 2nd place finisher Tiger Hill won back to back Euro Group 1's in his next two starts. 3rd place finisher Dream Well was a multiple Group 1 winner in Europe. 4th place finisher Sagamix was the previous years Arc winner. 5th place finisher Borgia was a multiple Group 1 winner in Europe. The 7th place finisher came back to win a Group 1 the following year, and was a good second to Giant's Causeway and Fantastic Light.

He concluded an excellent four race campaign in Europe with a good 2nd in the Arc over boggy ground. A lot of good horses were very soundly beaten in that race, including Daylami and Fantastic Light for Godolphin.

Obviously, Grass Wonder came right back and established elite Group 1 level form.

1998 was a real exceptional year for Japanese horse racing. And all 3 of these horses in this race 15 years ago had US pedigree ties.
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:26 PM
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More today trivia:

38 years ago today, Saturday Night Live debuted with George Carlin as the host.
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:27 PM
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Can you post Rock Hard Tens career pps? I cant find video of when he beat St. Liam.
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:50 PM
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http://www1.drf.com/row/pps/rockhardten.pdf

It's going to be pretty cool when I can finally start pulling up the stars with TimeformUS pp's.
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Old 10-11-2013, 06:01 PM
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http://www1.drf.com/row/pps/rockhardten.pdf

It's going to be pretty cool when I can finally start pulling up the stars with TimeformUS pp's.
Cool. Thanks Dougie. He got good there for 6 months.
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Speaking of St Liam...

I've always wondered this. So he only had one crop to race, right?


Is there any 2nd generation St Liams standing anywhere right now? Just to keep that line going? I was really excited for his prospects as a sire, and was tragic how he died so young.

I remember there was a St Liam horse that ran vs Wise Dan in the Firecracker at Churchill this past June. If that one isn't gelded maybe he has some potential at stud (just based on St Liam being his daddy). Or any good broodemares?

Pedigree Query lists his progeny out... but it seems jumbled
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More today trivia:

38 years ago today, Saturday Night Live debuted with George Carlin as the host.
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More today trivia:

38 years ago today, Saturday Night Live debuted with George Carlin as the host.
Watched it.

Do you know the show that used to rotate once month into the SNL time slot?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekend_(news_program)

http://greatbutforgotten.blogspot.co...eekend-tv.html

In those pre-VCR, pre-news channel days, Weekend was among the first to show footage of the then new punk rock scene in the UK. Everybody who saw the report was transfixed by it--it was so much cooler than the crap being fobbed off as music in the US (outside of New York and a very few other places). A small snippet of that report is at the beginning of this weird compilation clip from NBC:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNBWPvVSl8s

Actually NBC (through SNL and the Tomorrow show with Tom Synder) really was the first outlet for punk (and proto-punk) performances. Patti Smith (more proto-punk) on SNL in 1976 blew my effing mind at the time--so much different than the crap on the radio.

http://vimeo.com/5456823
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One the greatest confrontations between awesome horses with layoff lines happened...and in Japan of all places.

October 11th 1998:

You had Silence Suzuka, an invincible 4-year-old, under 130lbs, who was incredibly good since his connections allowed him to run-off in the early stages of races.




You had El Condor Pasa, a sensational 3-year-old, under 126lbs.




And you had a former two-year-old champion, Grass Wonder, making his 3yo debut under 121lbs. Grass Wonder is a full brother to multiple Grade 1 winning US millionaire Wonder Again.





Such a great race to watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulekp5jedFM


Silence Suzuka was cutting back from 11 furlongs, where he had just lasted in a Grade 1 victory over Stay Gold (the sire of two-time Arc de Triomphe second place finisher, Orfevre)

Normally out in front by a city block, Silence Suzuka was only a few lengths clear early. The crowd got very excited when Grass Wonder made a move on the far turn, he faded to fifth. El Condor Pasa surged for second but never even remotely threatened the winner.

Look at the subsequent form for those horses. Silence Suzuka broke down on a 12 length lead in an important Gr 1 race in his next start.

El Condor Pasa firmly established himself as one of the greatest Japanese horses ever. He shipped six-thousand miles to race in Europe, and beat an all-star Group 1 field there over good ground.

Soundly beaten 2nd place finisher Tiger Hill won back to back Euro Group 1's in his next two starts. 3rd place finisher Dream Well was a multiple Group 1 winner in Europe. 4th place finisher Sagamix was the previous years Arc winner. 5th place finisher Borgia was a multiple Group 1 winner in Europe. The 7th place finisher came back to win a Group 1 the following year, and was a good second to Giant's Causeway and Fantastic Light.

He concluded an excellent four race campaign in Europe with a good 2nd in the Arc over boggy ground. A lot of good horses were very soundly beaten in that race, including Daylami and Fantastic Light for Godolphin.

Obviously, Grass Wonder came right back and established elite Group 1 level form.

1998 was a real exceptional year for Japanese horse racing. And all 3 of these horses in this race 15 years ago had US pedigree ties.
Alos I hadn't heard of this before... really awesome race/back story.
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