I hate to be negative but this is

2MinsToPost · #1 10-02-2006, 05:10 PM

just my opinion. I am sick of hearing about who should be the Horse of the Year, who is better. I think this would settle the debate, how about saddling it up and settling it on the track, a match race of sorts. I don't know how the voting occurs, but lets say it comes down to three legit horses. Why not just let em decide on the track? Especially, mind you, when their is some discontent on which horse deserves the award?

I know, this seems foolish in the eyes of the history of the sport but when you let men vote and decide who should get the award it leaves so many questions un answered. I say let the horses decide on a given Saturday at a track.

Just my opinion. Does anyone agree or am I once again completly off base?

Cajungator26 · #2 10-02-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

just my opinion. I am sick of hearing about who should be the Horse of the Year, who is better. I think this would settle the debate, how about saddling it up and settling it on the track, a match race of sorts. I don't know how the voting occurs, but lets say it comes down to three legit horses. Why not just let em decide on the track? Especially, mind you, when their is some discontent on which horse deserves the award?

I know, this seems foolish in the eyes of the history of the sport but when you let men vote and decide who should get the award it leaves so many questions un answered. I say let the horses decide on a given Saturday at a track.

Just my opinion. Does anyone agree or am I once again completly off base?

Technically, the BCC should settle that debate, shouldn't it?

2MinsToPost · #3 10-02-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Technically, the BCC should settle that debate, shouldn't it?

Yes, one would think but these debates seem to linger on, and on, and on. I agree, if a horse like say Butterface (thats for you Tim) smokes the field who knows? I don't know, this post is more in my frustration in projections, be it Horse Racing, NASCAR (you would understand this Cajun), Football etc. Who is your number 1 blah blah blah. Settle it on the track.

Do you feel what I am trying to convey here?

disappearingdan_akaplaya · #4 10-02-2006, 05:18 PM

[quote=Cajungator26]Technically, the BCC should settle that debate, shouldn't it?

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LOL well if youre mineshaft and beat 6 horse fields all year yet lose in full ones you dont have to show to the bcc and will still get hoy

#5 10-02-2006, 05:31 PM

Every sport that I can think of has playoffs.... I really don't believe that One particular race can dictate who really is the best! I think its a culmination of performances..

sumitas · #6 10-02-2006, 06:16 PM

My horse of the year is Barbaro.

somerfrost · #7 10-02-2006, 06:28 PM

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My horse of the year is Barbaro.

Me too! This isn't college basketball

#8 10-02-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

just my opinion. I am sick of hearing about who should be the Horse of the Year, who is better. I think this would settle the debate, how about saddling it up and settling it on the track, a match race of sorts. I don't know how the voting occurs, but lets say it comes down to three legit horses. Why not just let em decide on the track? Especially, mind you, when their is some discontent on which horse deserves the award?

I know, this seems foolish in the eyes of the history of the sport but when you let men vote and decide who should get the award it leaves so many questions un answered. I say let the horses decide on a given Saturday at a track.

Just my opinion. Does anyone agree or am I once again completly off base?

The ghost of Ruffian hovers over the sport and unjustly so.

I've wanted the BCC to be a primetime national broadcast and at least a $10 million purse. I've also wanted at least 6 prep races for it to be a qualifier of sorts. This would force owners and trainers to run their horses and increase the chances of the best running against one another.

But wtf do I know? It's obvious track management has all of the answers. If they didn't they would listen. Right?

Slewbopper · #9 10-03-2006, 04:31 AM

[quote=2MinsToPost]just my opinion. I am sick of hearing about who should be the Horse of the Year, who is better. I think this would settle the debate, how about saddling it up and settling it on the track, a match race of sorts. I don't know how the voting occurs, but lets say it comes down to three legit horses. Why not just let em decide on the track?QUOTE]

In '72 and '98, HOY was a 2 yo. I don't think running them against older at 1 1/4 would work out too well. Then again, voting a 2 yo HOY doesn't make much sense.

#10 10-03-2006, 08:24 AM

i think there should be a concrete method for choosing horse of the year. whether a points system or something. voting should not be the way. too much like the oscars, and like the oscars, seems horses are pushed only towards the latter part of the year....the bcc was a good thing, but in many ways is a bad one.

and i almost choked on my sunflower seeds when i heard the arc referred to as a great PREP for the bc!!!! it's not a prep!!!! as tho all races leading to ky in the spring are preps, when they're legit races in their own right, as well as the fall racing leading up to the bc. i think the bc should be put smack dab in the middle of the year. or in the spring...it's too late in the year.

SniperSB23 · #11 10-03-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig2

i think there should be a concrete method for choosing horse of the year. whether a points system or something. voting should not be the way. too much like the oscars, and like the oscars, seems horses are pushed only towards the latter part of the year....the bcc was a good thing, but in many ways is a bad one.

and i almost choked on my sunflower seeds when i heard the arc referred to as a great PREP for the bc!!!! it's not a prep!!!! as tho all races leading to ky in the spring are preps, when they're legit races in their own right, as well as the fall racing leading up to the bc. i think the bc should be put smack dab in the middle of the year. or in the spring...it's too late in the year.

I actually prefer a points system to settle all the Eclipse Awards except for HOY. Let the points determine the champion in each division and then the voters can choose their HOY from those champions.

disrespectnfool · #12 10-03-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig2

i think there should be a concrete method for choosing horse of the year. whether a points system or something. voting should not be the way. too much like the oscars, and like the oscars, seems horses are pushed only towards the latter part of the year....the bcc was a good thing, but in many ways is a bad one.

and i almost choked on my sunflower seeds when i heard the arc referred to as a great PREP for the bc!!!! it's not a prep!!!! as tho all races leading to ky in the spring are preps, when they're legit races in their own right, as well as the fall racing leading up to the bc. i think the bc should be put smack dab in the middle of the year. or in the spring...it's too late in the year.

with a concrete method in place, would this conversation even take place?
that's part of what makes racing (and all great sports) unique.
Johnny Bench or Carlton Fisk? Bernardini or Discreet Cat?

MISTERGEE · #13 10-03-2006, 09:32 AM

Henny Hughes, Discreet Cat, Bernadini, Invasor, Etc, Etc. What Will Happen If One Owner Or One Family Of Owners Own A Great Percentage Of All The Great Horses. How Will This Effect The Sport And The Interest In The Sport. Will Their Best Horses Duck Each Other, Will The Spirit Of Competition Disappear At The Highest Levels, And Will The "common Man" Say What The Heck How Do We Compete With Someone Spending $100,000,000 On A Weekend !!

#14 10-03-2006, 09:35 AM

Don't expect the trend to lessen anytime soon Mistergee.
The Sheikh's son Matthew is said to be EVEN MORE passionate about the game than his father is. Hes an amateur rider himself, and already buying horses just like his dad. I believe when you see "Zabeel" as the owner, its a partnership of Matthew and Mohammed or just Matthew.
Expect the Maktoums to carry on this love for generations.

avance2000 · #15 10-03-2006, 04:26 PM

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Don't expect the trend to lessen anytime soon Mistergee.
The Sheikh's son Matthew is said to be EVEN MORE passionate about the game than his father is. Hes an amateur rider himself, and already buying horses just like his dad. I believe when you see "Zabeel" as the owner, its a partnership of Matthew and Mohammed or just Matthew.
Expect the Maktoums to carry on this love for generations.

but isn't this year a bit of an exception? you can buy all the high priced yearlings in the world and it will obviously bring you some level of success but there will often be some undervalued Seattle Slew/Smarty Jones type who turns out to be the best horse of his crop. they seem to have all the best this year, and they are certainly buying the expensive babies but that doesn't guarantee this kind of success 2 or 3 years down the road.

ateamstupid · #16 10-03-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

Henny Hughes, Discreet Cat, Bernadini, Invasor, Etc, Etc. What Will Happen If One Owner Or One Family Of Owners Own A Great Percentage Of All The Great Horses. How Will This Effect The Sport And The Interest In The Sport. Will Their Best Horses Duck Each Other, Will The Spirit Of Competition Disappear At The Highest Levels, And Will The "common Man" Say What The Heck How Do We Compete With Someone Spending $100,000,000 On A Weekend !!

Doesn't it get annoying capitalizing the first letter of every word?