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![]() KEE nightcap Friday is a 9f $7,500 claimer ending the P5/P4 which includes 2 divisions of the Valley View, an N1X and $50k/N2L.
If NYRA carded that finale to that sequence, there'd be an internet torch & pitchfork parade right out of Frankenstein... Keeneland does it... Crickets.
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. |
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![]() Cuomo is in charge now. Everyone knows that things will be different now.
Keeneland is very concerned that Kentucky Downs is horning in on their action and is combating them by carding 7500 claimers, putting them in the pick 5 and getting their customers used to these races. They are also considering carding dated 4k races to combat the new River Downs grandstand/gambling hall. |
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Did you get my pm about the quake? I was concerned with your well being |
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![]() Oh, I thought by crushing the pick 3 you were going to sit on the pick 3. My bad.
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![]() Yup. That's it. Glad your OK Dave.
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Myself? I cut my teeth on low level claimers, the more the merrier. |
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![]() EXCELLENT! Thanks for the reminder.
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![]() Belmont Fall Meet nightcaps
17Oct12 9Bel fst 3 Md 25000 14Oct12 10Bel gd 3 Clm 20000n2l 13Oct12 10Bel gd 3 Clm 20000b 12Oct12 9Bel gd 3 Clm 20000b 11Oct12 9Bel fst 3 Soc 50000r 8Oct12 10Bel gd 3 Clm 15000b 0 7Oct12 10Bel gd 3 Clm 20000n2l 6Oct12 10Bel fst 3 Clm 15000b 5Oct12 9Bel fst 3 Md 25000 4Oct12 9Bel my 3 Md Sp Wt 3Oct12 9Bel my 3 Md 25000 30Sep12 10Bel fst 3 Clm 20000b 29Sep12 11Bel yl 3 Md Sp Wt 27Sep12 10Bel fm 3 Md 25000 26Sep12 9Bel fm 3 Md 25000 23Sep12 10Bel gd 3 Md Sp Wt 21Sep12 9Bel fst 2 Md 65000 20Sep12 9Bel yl 2 Md Sp Wt 19Sep12 9Bel fst 3 Md 25000 16Sep12 10Bel fm 3 Md 25000 15Sep12 10Bel fst 3 Clm 15000b 14Sep12 9Bel fm 3 Clm 20000b 13Sep12 9Bel fm 3 Md 25000 12Sep12 9Bel fm 3 Clm 20000b 9Sep12 10Bel fst 3 Md Sp Wt 8Sep12 10Bel fst 3 Clm 15000b
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. |
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![]() Facts can be pseky things, can't they?
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![]() I don't personally see any problem with open $7,500 claiming races.
The seven inside-most horses in the race have won 19 races so far this year and it's one of the few races on Keeneland's card today I'm even remotely interested in. |
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![]() Just so we know what we are dealing with, here is a breakdown of the last race of the day for each day at Belmont since the fall meeting started on September 8th:
There have been 30 last races of the day carded so far, including this weekend, and they have been 1 NY Bred stake, 1 Starter allowance/opt. claimer, 5 Maiden Special Weight (1 open, 4 NY bred), 11 maiden claimers (1 65k, 1 50k, the rest 25k or less) and 12 either conditioned or NW2L claimers, all between 15-25k claiming price. So perhaps it's not every day, but there have certainly been a representative number of low-level claiming races to finish up belmont cards. Breakdown of field size, of 27 races run so far, 5 had 12 horses, 7 had 11, 5 had 10, 3 had 9, 4 had 8, 3 had 7 or less. It's just you remember the three horse field more vividly so it becomes "all the races have short fields" but the actual number don't back up that assertion. The races draw full competitive fields and as far as I'm concerned that's all that really matters. Last edited by ranger5830 : 10-19-2012 at 12:19 PM. Reason: Added field size info |
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![]() The finale last Saturday at Keeneland was a 30K N2L claimer.
Those two races are very similar -- a good 30K N2L male and a good $7,500 open male are going to be very close on figures -- the only big difference is that the good open $7,500 usually is winning or dropping and the good 30K N2L is consistent at filling out exotic tickets or dropping. |
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![]() Did you read the first sentence of his post?
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![]() I wasn't saying it there, but I will say it here. Through yesterday, there have been 267 races at Belmont during the fall meet, with a total of 2,213 starters, for an average of 8.288 starters per race. For every 5 horse stakes race or off-the-turf event, there was a big full 12 horse field to make up for it.
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