Repole, citing juvenile Lasix ban, won't send horses to Breeders' Cup

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http://www.drf.com/news/breeders-cup...es-santa-anita

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[Indian Charlie]

Funny how NYRA was the last bastion on forbidding the use of Lasix, and now the NY'er won't ship to SA for the BC because they won't allow it's use.

[Scav]

Good for Repole, absolutely great.

I personally won't be betting any of the Juvy races because of the ban. Its ridiculous to put gamblers in a situation where we now have to guess which horses are gonna hemorage and which ones won't. Its hard enough already.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Scav

I personally won't be betting any of the Juvy races because of the ban. Its ridiculous to put gamblers in a situation where we now have to guess which horses are gonna hemorage and which ones won't. Its hard enough already.

I agree, but aren't we sort of doing that anyway?

[pweizer]

I also applaud the decision. This is the only way the policy will ever change. What is going to happen next year when it is all races, not just two year olds?

Paul

[alysheba4]

who was the Einstein that thought of this? too bad horse racing is run by Fcking bafoons.

[Merlinsky]

This couldn't have anything to do with the record of east coast horses in the last 2 Santa Anita Breeders' Cup races when it came to placing, could it? I'm sure it's totally about lasix.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

This couldn't have anything to do with the record of east coast horses in the last 2 Santa Anita Breeders' Cup races when it came to placing, could it? I'm sure it's totally about lasix.

I guess the surface change doesn't matter?

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

This couldn't have anything to do with the record of east coast horses in the last 2 Santa Anita Breeders' Cup races when it came to placing, could it? I'm sure it's totally about lasix.

In the article, he does say this is the reason for not running Stay Thirsty. However, the overall lasix point is still a good one.

Paul

[PatCummings]

Policy debate aside, it's not like the BC announced last week no Lasix for the Juvy races in 2012. Everyone knew this all year, except maybe Alysheba4, so the comments out now seem just like fuel to some fading fire.

If he had the expected favorite, and then didn't go - sure, a much bigger deal. I'm not fretting over the lack of Notacatbutallama.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Scav

Good for Repole, absolutely great.

I personally won't be betting any of the Juvy races because of the ban. Its ridiculous to put gamblers in a situation where we now have to guess which horses are gonna hemorage and which ones won't. Its hard enough already.

That is ridiculous. If a horse bleeds badly with no lasix, he is still going to bleed with lasix. He may bleed less but he's still going to bleed. It's not as if lasix eliminates bleeding. On a scale of 1-10, if a horse bleeds a 10 without lasix, what's he going to bleed with lasix? He'll still probably bleed a 7. They don't use 1-10 scales for bleeding but I used it for simplicity. Now if a horse bleeds a 1 or a 2 without lasix, he might not bleed with lasix. Lasix will help a little bit but it's not a cure-all.

In terms of handicapping, it is a non-issue. None of the horses will have lasix. They're all on the same boat. As I said before, if a horse does end up bleeding badly, that horse was not going to win the race even if he had lasix.

I wonder if Repole will refuse to run horses in the Dubai World Cup. There is no lasix allowed in Dubai. I don't hear people complaining about that. It would actually be a bigger factor in that race. If you have an older horse who has a history of bleeding and you have to go to Dubai where it is very hot, that may be a small concern. That would certainly be a bigger concern than in the BC Juvenille races, but even in Dubai I wouldn't worry about it too much. In the BC Juvenille races, it is a non-issue.

By the way, eight horses from the US that raced on lasix went over to Dubai and won the Dubai World Cup without lasix.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That is ridiculous. If a horse bleeds badly with no lasix, he is still going to bleed with lasix. He may bleed less but he's still going to bleed. It's not as if lasix eliminates bleeding. On a scale of 1-10, if a horse bleeds a 10 without lasix, what's he going to bleed with lasix? He'll still probably bleed a 7. They don't use 1-10 scales for bleeding but I used it for simplicity. Now if a horse bleeds a 1 or a 2 without lasix, he might not bleed with lasix. Lasix will help a little bit but it's not a cure-all.

In terms of handicapping, it is a non-issue. None of the horses will have lasix. They're all on the same boat. As I said before, if a horse does end up bleeding badly, that horse was not going to win the race even if he had lasix.

I wonder if Repole will refuse to run horses in the Dubai World Cup. There is no lasix allowed in Dubai. I don't hear people complaining about that. It would actually be a bigger factor in that race. If you have an older horse who has a history of bleeding and you have to go to Dubai where it is very hot, that may be a small concern. That would certainly be a bigger concern than in the BC Juvenille races, but even in Dubai I wouldn't worry about it too much. In the BC Juvenille races, it is a non-issue.

By the way, eight horses from the US that raced on lasix went over to Dubai and won the Dubai World Cup without lasix.

Helpful, thank you.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That is ridiculous. If a horse bleeds badly with no lasix, he is still going to bleed with lasix. He may bleed less but he's still going to bleed. It's not as if lasix eliminates bleeding. On a scale of 1-10, if a horse bleeds a 10 without lasix, what's he going to bleed with lasix? He'll still probably bleed a 7. They don't use 1-10 scales for bleeding but I used it for simplicity. Now if a horse bleeds a 1 or a 2 without lasix, he might not bleed with lasix. Lasix will help a little bit but it's not a cure-all.

In terms of handicapping, it is a non-issue. None of the horses will have lasix. They're all on the same boat. As I said before, if a horse does end up bleeding badly, that horse was not going to win the race even if he had lasix.

I wonder if Repole will refuse to run horses in the Dubai World Cup. There is no lasix allowed in Dubai. I don't hear people complaining about that. It would actually be a bigger factor in that race. If you have an older horse who has a history of bleeding and you have to go to Dubai where it is very hot, that may be a small concern. That would certainly be a bigger concern than in the BC Juvenille races, but even in Dubai I wouldn't worry about it too much. In the BC Juvenille races, it is a non-issue.

By the way, eight horses from the US that raced on lasix went over to Dubai and won the Dubai World Cup without lasix.

Can I borrow your crystal ball sometime?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Can I borrow your crystal ball sometime?

Why bother? If you used it, all you'd see are advertisements for Lasix.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Can I borrow your crystal ball sometime?

I know it's not an exact science. I'm not claiming that it is. I was speaking in general terms. Is it impossible that not having lasix could have a dramatic effect on any of the BC Juvenille races? Sure it is possible, but it is very unlikely.

If you had a 2 year old that was going to run in the BC Juvenille this year, would you be nervous about running without lasix? Tell us the truth. I'm sure you would rather run with it if your horse had used it in all of his previous races. I understand that. But would you truly be worried if you couldn't use it?