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09-21-2006, 11:22 PM
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Andrew Beyer's comments about TVG
Here is an article Andrew Beyer wrote regarding the telivision channel TVG:
http://drf.com/drfNewsArticle.do?NID=78584&subs=0&arc=0 TVG is a godsend to horse race lovers like me and the rest of this board but I don't like them ramming thier picks down our throats. What are the ROI on the so-called analysts they have on their. I am very sure its in the RED What the hell is Stevens and Puigsli doing making picks on air? Thier job is to provide insight on the race not what they have on the pick 4. 
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09-22-2006, 12:09 AM
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I agree with you 100% thats why i now have choosen to watch TVG on mute! HRTV is way better and is what TVG should model their network after. I see more stuff about what goes on behind in the backside, on TVG they just want your $ they could care less if you know what actually goes on with the horses after the last race. All they show is how to bet, ok they did that when they 1st came on the air and now they are still talking to everyone like they are stupid.
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09-22-2006, 10:53 AM
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they have a betting service and they're pushing their product. it's to be expected. if people follow their picks blindly, then mullins was indeed right. any discerning person will know to take thier picks with a grain of salt. it doesn't bother me that they make losing pick after losing pick. at least they're showing races. and lots of 'em.
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09-22-2006, 10:59 AM
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How can you say TVG is showing lots of races. There are plenty of times where a race was going off at a 'lower' track only for them to show a friggin post parade, they are improving but there is 10 minutes in between post parade and post, and the parade is only like 1 minute, plenty of time to show the race, put the parade on delay and then make our decisions
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09-22-2006, 11:05 AM
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09-22-2006, 11:11 AM
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What they need to do is set up another channel, one for commentary and another with 4 track feeds on it, like some OTB's do. I doubt cable companies would pick it up, but I guarantee that TVG users would load that up on their computer screen. It would be a great idea.
On another note, any person that actually used TVG as their betting service needs to get their head examined. 25 cents per wager. I already lose $500 a day and they want me to pay like $20 to lose that money, I consider it gross misconduct. In California, you can use Youbet and not have to pay to lose your money, you could also go offshore and get 7% of your wagers back, if you were offshore, it is like a $55 swing (Instead of being out $20 in wagers, you are +$35 in rebates on $500 wagered)
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09-29-2006, 08:05 AM
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Love hearing Beyer actually knock someone's ability to pick winners. Classic.
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#8
09-29-2006, 09:19 AM
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I think TVG does a fantastic job, the only thing I would have an open complaint about the West Coast bias they show. Im speaking of watching a 6k claimer at Golden Gate, while there are meaningful races going on somewhere else.
I dont think much of Andy Beyer, or his numbers. Andy Beyer has made a nice living selling his figures to the general public, people who cannot make a speed figure. Hes also inticed the public into thinking they are the end of of handicapping, when infact they are just as objective as you or I picking a horse we like more than another. When the variant changes, they choose to change it, maybe another handicapper wouldnt see fit to make a change in variant? Who knows, all Im saying is they arent as important as he would like to think, and to me hes not as important as he would like to think. Now Todd Schrupp on TVG, hes too opinionated for having no clue what hes talking about. Matt Carothers is a good handicapper, B doesnt show you everything on the air, Simon is actually pretty good, and Frank, well Frank should stick to just telling you which ones are pretty. However, I would much rather here the guys talking over at TVG, than Jeff Siegal, or Milie Ball, or any of those jerkoffs on HRTV. Not to mention HRTV shows tracks Im for the most part not interested in.
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#10
09-29-2006, 01:39 PM
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Do you mean Caton?
There is no arguing with the choice of on air talent. If someone's handicapping style doesn't suit you TVG is not going to fire him for you. I think that where TVG does best is in specials like the pre-Derby workouts etc. Even if you don't care for the commentary, the FOOTAGE is stuff you don't see elsewhere. I could do without pre/post race interviews unless some REAL NEWS is broken. How many times can we haer a claiming trainer refer to a $5k horses as "a nice horse" or a jock say "he broke good and moved when I asked."
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