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Old 04-30-2012, 12:38 PM
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Default Well, this isn't good...

Nothing people around the game don't know, but also have done NOTHING to fix.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/30/us...acks.html?_r=1
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:12 PM
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Davy Jacobsen doesn't think there is a problem?
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:19 PM
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Given politics here in NYS, I think today's report on the NYRA takeout snafu (http://www.saratogian.com/articles/2...2647033739.txt), may be far more damaging to the sport in New York.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:32 PM
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The week of the Derby -- and NY Times are doing features that tail-spin into rehashing Mike Gill and about the hopelessly incompetent 1% trainer George Iacovacci?

As brilliantly as they handed the article about Hansen's skin color...this was a laughably botched piece.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:33 PM
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The week of the Derby -- and NY Times are doing features that tail-spin into rehashing Mike Gill and about the hopelessly incompetent 1% trainer George Iacovacci?

As brilliantly as they handed the article about Hansen's skin color...this was a laughably botched piece.
I would agree, if it wasn't true and things had changed. Don't you think the very idea that an ass clown like Iacovacci is making a living in the sport says a lot?
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:39 PM
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I would agree, if it wasn't true and things had changed. Don't you think the very idea that an ass clown like Iacovacci is making a living in the sport says a lot?
If Iacovacci and a guy like Rodeny Moyers really are making a living ... I sure would like to know how. Moyer claims horses left and right for $5,000 and they almost always regress 10 lengths or more in a matter of a week or two.

They can't be making a living. Moyers has to be taken an absolute bath.

I agree with you that Slots have done a whole lot to make the game worse off...but that feature is another poor effort imo and the timing of it makes it look like they have a vandetta against horse racing.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:27 PM
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The recommended comments are telling...and frightening. People are overboard with the bleeding heart routine. Bring on the slacktivists.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:31 PM
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The recommended comments are telling...and frightening. People are overboard with the bleeding heart routine. Bring on the slacktivists.
Don't you think overboard is what is needed now? Tracks and horsemen refuse to change. They have had ample time. Instead, things are getting worse by the day. Slots money is the single worst thing to ever happen to the sport.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:32 AM
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Don't you think overboard is what is needed now? Tracks and horsemen refuse to change. They have had ample time. Instead, things are getting worse by the day. Slots money is the single worst thing to ever happen to the sport.
Yes but I believe overboard is what is needed with bigger issues in this country that the "free" press is too chicken s.hit to tackle.

How many times does the Gill incident need to be mentioned? If I were to do a search of the NYT website would articles critical of Goldman Sachs far outnumber criticism of horse racing?

Somehow I doubt it.

They want us to be mad over things that don't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Then when bad things happen on the micro level they hyper focus on it to keep us distracted from the big picture.
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:07 AM
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what they need to do is fire Campo, Hayward, and the rest of those crooks. Establish some integrity in their product, then work their way down. lasix should be the last of their worries.
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:27 AM
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Yes but I believe overboard is what is needed with bigger issues in this country that the "free" press is too chicken s.hit to tackle.

How many times does the Gill incident need to be mentioned? If I were to do a search of the NYT website would articles critical of Goldman Sachs far outnumber criticism of horse racing?

Somehow I doubt it.

They want us to be mad over things that don't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Then when bad things happen on the micro level they hyper focus on it to keep us distracted from the big picture.
The really big, and important stuff, is completely censored.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:44 PM
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The recommended comments are telling...and frightening. People are overboard with the bleeding heart routine. Bring on the slacktivists.
I've never done this before but went directly to the comments bypassing the article.

Don't forget that at the end of the day the majority of these horses are then sent to slaughter for human consumption

There are so many layers here but the one that makes me sick first off - not having read the piece - is the me-too-ism... the I-can't-think-for-myself-so-will-let-thee-media-do-that-for-me way of nonthinking.

Sometimes people can be so easily manipulated it's frightening.
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Nothing people around the game don't know, but also have done NOTHING to fix.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/30/us...acks.html?_r=1
I keep thinking of the end of this scene...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8IBnfkcrsM

Not happening.
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