Vote on Boehner bill starting

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Debate has started on Boehner's bill. Questions remain as to if he can even get enough votes within his own caucus to pass it. Doubtful.

If he does pass it, Reid said the Senate will vote it down late tonight. Boehner knows the Senate will not vote in favor of it (they sent him a letter yesterday as he insisted upon pursuing it), and the President said he would veto it.

Thanks, Speaker, for being held hostage by the loons in your party. And saying today that you have no control over if our credit rating is downgraded.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/17...short-on-votes

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Well, you can watch this whole debacle on CSpan. http://www.cspan.org/Events/House-Ex...10737423142-7/ Love how they schedule this crap for after the US markets close.

And if you're trying to follow along, they are now passing bills naming Post Offices while Boehner tries to round up votes for a bill that won't pass the Senate. Because that's what's most important right now.

WASHINGTON -- House GOP leadership announced abruptly on Thursday evening that they were suspending a vote on Speaker John Boehner's (R-Ohio) debt ceiling proposal, signaling in the process that the GOP lacked the votes to pass the package.

The news came just minutes before party leadership was set to hold a 5:30 p.m. vote on the proposal, which would cut roughly $915 billion in spending over the next ten years but only raise the debt ceiling through the end of the calendar year.

Congressional aides were scrambling to figure out just when the vote would be rescheduled for -- the House for now will consider eight smaller measures first -- but a spokesman for House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said that a vote on Boehner's proposal would still take place on Thursday night.

Whether that is enough time for the Speaker to convince a few more Republicans to support him is unclear. Informal whip counts had 25 Republicans and the full Democratic caucus opposing the measure, which would put it short of the 216 votes needed for passage.

The bill's delay, and the continued unlikelihood of its passage, gave Democrats yet another hook to argue that the entire enterprise was fruitless. As one aide emailed, with respect to Boehner's bill: "we're wasting precious time so he can twist more arms for a bill that is dead [in the Senate]."

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Originally Posted by Riot

Debate has started on Boehner's bill. Questions remain as to if he can even get enough votes within his own caucus to pass it. Doubtful.

If he does pass it, Reid said the Senate will vote it down late tonight. Boehner knows the Senate will not vote in favor of it (they sent him a letter yesterday as he insisted upon pursuing it), and the President said he would veto it.

Thanks, Speaker, for being held hostage by the loons in your party. And saying today that you have no control over if our credit rating is downgraded.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/17...short-on-votes

wait....the senate wont pass, the prez will veto if they did...what do house loons have to do with it? seems a complete waste of time to keep moving forward with it at al.

[dellinger63]

It's not even close to responsible and shouldn't be passed by the house. New bill sent to Obama and the Senate should simply state GFY! Let the Ponzi cards fall. Better now than later.

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Originally Posted by Danzig

wait....the senate wont pass, the prez will veto if they did...what do house loons have to do with it? seems a complete waste of time to keep moving forward with it at al.

Yes, it is a complete waste of time.

The House loons control 47 votes of the Republican caucus. Boehner can't even get to 217 within his own overwhelming majority. The House loons have already torpedoed two previous tentative agreements last week.

They are nihilists (although I think 3 have "changed sides" today, citing "being told the facts" - where have they been this past week?).

Michelle Bachmann again today said she'll never vote for a debt ceiling increase, saying it's all a lie that we'll be in trouble and not be able to pay our debts.

This is what democracy looks like sometimes.

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And ... it's postponed, House in recess. They may still vote tonight. Boehner is meeting with members individually (begging).

Begging try and get them to vote for a bill that won't pass the Senate and that the President will veto.

This is a huge waste of our time and money. This incompetence is so angering. Just take a damn clean debt ceiling vote, like you guys have the previous 79 times, then spend all the time you want on cuts to spending and revenue deals. After all, there is a new budget coming up.

The vote to pass House Speaker John Boehner's (R-OH) debt ceiling bill has been postponed while Boehner meets with his members individually. The vote could still take place this evening. Earlier today, the House passed the rule along party lines (238-186) for House Speaker Boehner’s plan to lift the debt ceiling.

Speaker Boehner released a revised version of his proposal Wednesday evening, which cuts $917 billion dollars of spending over ten years.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said that should the House pass Boehner's bill, the Senate will vote to table - or discard - the measure this evening.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

And ... it's postponed, House in recess. They may still vote tonight. Boehner is meeting with members individually (begging).

Begging try and get them to vote for a bill that won't pass the Senate and that the President will veto.

This is a huge waste of our time and money. This incompetence is so angering. Just take a damn clean debt ceiling vote, like you guys have the previous 79 times, then spend all the time you want on cuts to spending and revenue deals. After all, there is a new budget coming up.

The ceiling is high enough and already takes too much money to keep up.

Time to scale down, quickly, before Christmas.

Break all those piggy banks and find the it's there.

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

The ceiling is high enough and already takes too much money to keep up.

So you're saying we shouldn't pay for things that Congress has already passed laws saying we will pay for?

We shouldn't pay for things we've already bought?

And somehow, magically, not paying your bills isn't "default"? And not paying for things that by law we are required to pay for isn't breaking our own law?

Explain how that works. Let me get some popcorn