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12-13-2010, 03:51 PM
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Do you think this is a really nice crop of 2 year olds?
I'm really impressed with all the talent we have out there this year!
This is not a complete list, but look at some of the two year olds we have this year: 2 year old Colts Uncle Mo, Boys At Tosconova, Pluck, To Honor And Serve, Premier Pegasus, Rouge Romance 2 year old fillies Cathy’s Crunches, Awesome Feather, Winter Memories, Turbulent Descent, Dancinginherdreams, More Than Real Last edited by smartbid09 : 12-13-2010 at 04:24 PM. 
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12-13-2010, 03:54 PM
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12-13-2010, 04:10 PM
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12-13-2010, 04:22 PM
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just throwing out some names that came to mind.  Got a little too excited Made the changes
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12-13-2010, 04:46 PM
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There might be some extraordinary talents in this crop, but overall the group seems anemic.
That could have been the lightest BC Juvenile in history in terms of depth. The Champagne had a 5-horse field with an odds-on colt with but a maiden win. The Hopeful had a 4-horse field. The Saratoga Special had a short field and the winner broke down soon after. The top colt at West (JPs Gusto) has the classic look of an early season 2yo that doesn't train on. The Hollywood Futurity looks like a free-for-all. To Honor And Serve seems like the only stakes winner that will be a legitimate Derby candidate.
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12-13-2010, 04:54 PM
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I agree with Rollo.
At the top of the crop there seem to be some monsters, but the crop lacks any depth at all once you get by the top three or so.
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12-13-2010, 05:08 PM
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BEST BEYERS: 2-year-olds (Main track only)
Juvenile Colts (1m or more) Uncle Mo CD 06 Nov 1 1/16M 108 To Honor and Serve AQU 27 Nov 1 1/8M 102 Gourmet Dinner DED 20 Nov 1 1/16M 93 Boys At Tosconova CD 06 Nov 1 1/16M 101 Mucho Macho Man AQU 27 Nov 1 1/8M 99 To Honor and Serve AQU 06 Nov 1M 97 Buffum BEL 30 Oct 1M 96 Cool Blue Red Hot BEL 30 Oct 1M 96 Comma to the Top HOL 06 Nov 1 1/16M 95 To Honor and Serve BEL 02 Oct 1 1/16M 95 Mountain Town AQU 27 Nov 1 1/8M 94 Uncle Mo BEL 09 Oct 1M 94 Juvenile Colts (<1m) Boys At Tosconova BEL 02 Jul 5F 102 Uncle Mo SAR 28 Aug 6F 102 Read the Contract AQU 26 Nov 6F 98 Leave of Absence AQU 07 Nov 6F 94 Sovereign Default BEL 15 Jul 5 1/2F 94 Dual Exhauzt CRC 11 Dec 6F 93 Justin Phillip BEL 18 Sep 6F 93 J P's Gusto DMR 08 Aug 6 1/2F 92 J P's Gusto HOL 31 May 5 1/2F 92 Su Casa G Casa RP 08 Oct 6F 92 Juvenile Fillies (all distances) Twelve Pack Shelly (f) LRL 08 Apr 4 1/2F 95 Quantum Miss (f) PEN 24 Nov 6F 94 Tales in Excess (f) DMR 04 Sep 5 1/2F 93 Honey Chile (f) KEE 09 Oct 6F 92 Promise Me a Cat (f) BEL 26 Sep 5 1/2F 92 Turbulent Descent (f) HOL 11 Dec 1 1/16M 92
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12-14-2010, 08:27 AM
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Now it's a different game. Those colts that trainers see has 'classic types" are held out 'til Labor Day weekend (or nearly so) and get one race at Belmont (Champagne) then of the BCJ. Since the BCJ has proven such a poor predictor of success at 3, alot of folks are just skipping it (To Honor and Serve) and looking for alternatives. With an Uncle Mo looming over the BCJ, why not try for big money at Delta or Remington before testing your colt. After all, recent history has shown that leading babies flatten out before the Derby. Why not get experience over the track in the KYJC or try 9f in the Remsen? Those races wont get you an Eclipse but the Juvie Awards have (of late) been like the kiss of death . As for this crop, I think it's a good one. As noted above, alot of babies have run big figs. Does that means they will all stay sound and hit Louisville ready to run a 120 on the first Saturday of May? No, but it means there is some talent out there. Remember too that those babies toiling earning 80-85 figs may have plenty of room to improve. This time a few years ago none of us had heard of Curlin and next year's Derby winner may as yet be unstarted or have just a poor maiden loss to his name.
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12-14-2010, 08:33 AM
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I think by April it is easier to assess a crop in terms of depth and quality but so far so good with this one.
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12-14-2010, 11:02 AM
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Anyways, you're mistaken about the BC Juvenile. Spend A Buck, Tank's Prospect, Chief's Crown (84); Danzig Connection (85); Alysheba, Bet Twice, Gulch (86); Easy Goer (88); Go And Go, Pleasant Tap (89); Best Pal (90); Pine Bluff, Dance Floor (91); Sea Hero (92); Tabasco Cat, Blumin Affair (93); Timber Country, Tejano Run (94); Editor's Note (95); Lemon Drop Kid, Cat Thief (98); Point Given, AP Valentine (00); Afleet Alex (04); Street Sense (06); Mine That Bird, Pioneerof The Nile (08); Lookin At Lucky (09). All Classic winners or Classic-placed. 17 of 25 Juveniles have produced at least one Classic winner. To Honor And Serve had but a maiden win to his credit. He simply didn't have the credentials to take a shot at the BC.
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12-14-2010, 11:41 AM
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Stick to your opinion. I think those other 3 are all OK.
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12-14-2010, 12:53 PM
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12-14-2010, 12:56 PM
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I would take him over anything coming out of the Delta race, or anything pointing to the Hollywood G1. He will be fine.
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12-14-2010, 01:06 PM
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Uncle Mo has the look of a hall of famer. Boys at Tosconova looks decent. I'm still holding out hope for Wine Police. The rest underwhelm me. Awesome Feather looks much the best of the fillies. The rest underwhelm me.
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