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Old 11-24-2010, 04:57 PM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40357872...-capitol_hill/

LOL. Yes the GOP is in trouble and the dems are above this stuff and really only do stuff that's in the best interest of the country...


I know the lefties will howl...


...but your party is in big trouble when they think Obama has compromised too much and leans to the right of center.

The most unpopular politician in America gets reelected to position of power by the party and vows to block compromise? Yeah that will play favorably in this political clmate? If the GOP tried to make palin a dictator they would stand a better chance than Obama getting re-elected.
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:02 PM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40357872...-capitol_hill/

LOL. Yes the GOP is in trouble and the dems are above this stuff and really only do stuff that's in the best interest of the country...


I know the lefties will howl...


...but your party is in big trouble when they think Obama has compromised too much and leans to the right of center.

The most unpopular politician in America gets reelected to position of power by the party and vows to block compromise? Yeah that will play favorably in this political clmate? If the GOP tried to make palin a dictator they would stand a better chance than Obama getting re-elected.
Palin vs Obama.. Who you votin for? I'd ****in vote for Nascar instead of Palin.
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:09 PM
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Palin vs Obama.. Who you votin for? I'd ****in vote for Nascar instead of Palin.
Instead of rioting the thread with palinenvy, why not tell why you like the Pelosi strategy?
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:15 PM
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Instead of rioting the thread with palinenvy, why not tell why you like the Pelosi strategy?
Dude.. I use my brain and vote for the best person regardless of party. Try it sometime... Right now they all suck. I don't want it to come down to Palin v Obama because we all lose..
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:26 PM
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Dude.. I use my brain and vote for the best person regardless of party. Try it sometime... Right now they all suck. I don't want it to come down to Palin v Obama because we all lose..
We all lose regardless of who is nominated. I am having a little trouble believing that you are as open minded as you are saying that you are. Of course you have completely ignored the original link so far which says something, not sure what though...
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:38 PM
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We all lose regardless of who is nominated. I am having a little trouble believing that you are as open minded as you are saying that you are. Of course you have completely ignored the original link so far which says something, not sure what though...
Ok I read it... Are you suprised that a politician is changing course? These clowns are in it for themselves not the people they serve. They say and do whatever it takes to get them elected again while lining up a lucrative gig when they finally get the boot... Give me someone other than Palin who may be the only person in the world less qualified than that Yale Cheerleader we elected previously.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...heerleader.htm
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Old 11-24-2010, 06:03 PM
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He should tell them that the Bush tax cuts will end for the rich. Whether they end for the Middle Class is up to the Repubics. Period. If he wants to get elected again, then he needs to get things done that people (who voted for him the first time) want done. The majority of his voters want the tax break for the rich to expire. If the Reps keep the middle from getting their tax break continued, then, it's on them. He wasn't for doing it. They were. Junior needs to grow a set, and lead. He needs to be good at exposing who's to blame for something. Clinton was very good at that, and this guy needs to get much better at it. He needs to call their bluff. Grow a set. He has tried to negotiate with ideologues. He got nowhere, and he's gunna meet with them on the 30th to do the same crap that didn't work. How many times does this guy got to be shown? Change, buddy.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:58 PM
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Dude.. I use my brain and vote for the best person regardless of party. Try it sometime... Right now they all suck. I don't want it to come down to Palin v Obama because we all lose..
I have to hand it to you. You have hit it right on the button when it comes to the above politicians.
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:48 PM
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The most unpopular politician in America gets reelected to position of power by the party and vows to block compromise? Yeah that will play favorably in this political clmate? If the GOP tried to make palin a dictator they would stand a better chance than Obama getting re-elected.
Pelosi is correctly reading what her base has been saying for 8 years. For example, Nascar keeps pointing out people don't health care, but what he neglects to realize is that a good portion of those who "don't like it" wanted far more than the few reforms that were delivered (they wanted single payer)

Look at the election results. The election threw out blue dogs, leaving the Democratic party (especially in the House) and Senate far more progressively-oriented than prior to the election, and sending a clear message to the Dems from their base.

Pelosi has always been of that bent, and now she's determined to represent that base, and part of that is preventing the President from giving away more to the GOP.

That will indeed play extremely favorably among Democrats and a significant portion of independents.

The Dem governor association will also become more active (purposely), the main thrust will be to get single-payer health care established in several states (Oregon, Vermont first) before the next election.

The GOP has moved far to the right in the past 10 years, virtually eliminating their middle. Now the Dems have just moved more to the left, kicking out the blue dogs.

Yes, the GOP is very unhappy with the re-entrenchment of the Dems even more to the left, but the Dem base is thrilled. They want to make Obama stop cowtowing to the GOP, and Pelosi and Reid will both now take that stand.

I still think the GOP will end up with Romney as the GOP nominee.

The GOP will always be at a significant disadvantage in numbers in the future, as the white rural older vote (their base) is shrinking in numbers, while minority-young voters are increasing exponentially and will soon be "the majority" in this country. The GOP continues to move further and further from the largest growing voter blocks across the country. They have to recapture a significant number of "independents" to win the next election (their base is outnumbered by Dem base, but more predictably shows at elections) I doubt it will happen with the Tea Party dragging the GOP farther and farther to the right. We'll see.

And regarding your favorite girl Sarah, I do think it's Palin that is the "most unpopular" politician in the country. But hey, at least she supports the North Koreans. South Koreans. Whatever.
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Palin vs Obama.. Who you votin for? I'd ****in vote for Nascar instead of Palin.
Thank you for the kind and generous words.
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