High Finance , confusion

from bloodhorse.

If you're looking for a horse that is bred to love a mile and a half at Belmont, High Finance's paternal grandsire, Deputy Minister, sired Belmont winner Touch Gold; his paternal great-grandsire, Gone West, sired Belmont winner Commendable; his broodmare sire, Conquistador Cielo, won the Belmont by 14 lengths; and his maternal great-grandsire, Vanlandingham, won the 1 1/2-mile Jockey Club Gold Cup (gr. I).

i read this and yet i see he has not yet run over 8f ??

this is just confusing.

[miraja2]

Yeah this horse is confusing. Based on his last two races and his pedigree I think he is definitely worth a play. The fact that he has not run over 8f is a bit of a worry and he might run out of gas in the stretch because of it, but I think he might steal it on the front end, and I think he has a HUGE chance to hit the board.
I just have no idea what the post time odds will be on him. He might become the wiseguy horse & be overbet, or people might toss him becasue of his lack of competition and experience and we might get a nice price on him. Tough to figure.

[Pointg5]

I don't know about lack of competition, he ran against Bernardini and Showing Up...

[miraja2]

I just meant that he has never run in a stakes race. He has faced some good individual horses, but he has never faced an entire field of quality horses. Having your stakes debut in a GI classic is pretty tough.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I just meant that he has never run in a stakes race. He has faced some good individual horses, but he has never faced an entire field of quality horses. Having your stakes debut in a GI classic is pretty tough.

In most cases I would agree with you, but this is a weak Belmont and very evenly matched....

[Cajungator26]

I hope I'm not wrong, but I don't like him to win. Although he is supposedly bred to get this distance, I'm not seeing that in his dosage profile. I just don't think that this horse has the talent to wire the field when he has never been over a mile before.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I hope I'm not wrong, but I don't like him to win. Although he is supposedly bred to get this distance, I'm not seeing that in his dosage profile. I just don't think that this horse has the talent to wire the field when he has never been over a mile before.

Bernardini had never been 2 turns, that worked out okay...

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

I don't know about lack of competition, he ran against Bernardini and Showing Up...

He is a much better horse now than he was then. I think he ran a 103 Beyer in his last. He is going to wire the field.

[1st_Saturday_in_May]

He is growing on me, I must say. Right now I'm thinking of a 5 horse tri box - High Finance, Bluegrass Cat, Deputy Glitters, Steppenwolfer, and either Jazil or Oh So Awesome or Bob and John...hmmmm decisions decisions

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May

He is growing on me, I must say. Right now I'm thinking of a 5 horse tri box - High Finance, Bluegrass Cat, Deputy Glitters, Steppenwolfer, and either Jazil or Oh So Awesome or Bob and John...hmmmm decisions decisions

I almost completely agree with you! My four favorite horses in this race are Steppenwolfer, Deputy Glitters, High Finance and Bluegrass Cat. I am a little bit scared by Sunriver however. I notice that you didn't even mention him as a possiblity for your tri box. Why are you tossing him?

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Exceller

He is a much better horse now than he was then. I think he ran a 103 Beyer in his last. He is going to wire the field.

I was at Keeneland the day he won, the track was slow and not favoring speed, his race was impressive...

[Dunbar]

Agree it's hard to judge a horse that hasn't been further than a mile. fwiw, Pinnacle has High Finance at 9.6 to 1 (fixed odds, "must start"). Hard to say whether you could do better than that with track odds.

--Dunbar