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Old 04-14-2010, 01:21 PM
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Default Neil Armstrong: Obama is hurting the space effort

But what the hell would Neil know, right?

http://www.politico.com/click/storie...ing_space.html
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:58 PM
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i'm not surprised that our astronaut corps supports human space flight.

i'm curious what benefit you see from spending billions to keep a human (as opposed to robotic) presence in space? why should we do this?

as much as you post here about government boondoggles, what do you see being accomplished on the space station? so far as i know, the only "science" is a study of the effect long term exposure to zero gravity has on humans.

we don't need humans in space. robotic probes do the same jobs better and cheaper.

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Old 04-14-2010, 04:09 PM
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i'm not surprised that our astronaut corps supports human space flight.

i'm curious what benefit you see from spending billions to keep a human (as opposed to robotic) presence in space? why should we do this?

as much as you post here about government boondoggles, what do you see being accomplished on the space station? so far as i know, the only "science" is a study of the effect long term exposure to zero gravity has on humans.

we don't need humans in space. robotic probes do the same jobs better and cheaper.
i am No big space adventure fan But you would be surprised to see the list of things that are now in common use that have been developed by NASA and/or the military. fabrics, chemicals, food process, etc.
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Old 04-14-2010, 04:14 PM
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i am No big space adventure fan But you would be surprised to see the list of things that are now in common use that have been developed by NASA and/or the military. fabrics, chemicals, food process, etc.
so how many billions spent for tang and velcro?

was that a good investment?

is it impossible to imagine freeze dried food being developed without landing people on the moon?
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Old 04-14-2010, 07:36 PM
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Laptop? Cell phone? GPS? Satellite T.V.?
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Old 04-14-2010, 07:49 PM
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Laptop? Cell phone? GPS? Satellite T.V.?
what do those have to do with manned space flight?

they all exist if we never sent anyone into space.
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Old 04-15-2010, 05:58 AM
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so how many billions spent for tang and velcro?

was that a good investment?

is it impossible to imagine freeze dried food being developed without landing people on the moon?

Even if it was just velcro and Tang, which is a ridiculous statement, it would be a better investment than paying billions to let people stay home instead of working, also known as welfare, SSI, or any other equivalent.

Ironically, you would not be able to even post a message to this board without the space program that you are criticizing. The computers we all use simply would not exist, at least not yet.
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Old 04-15-2010, 08:10 AM
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Even if it was just velcro and Tang, which is a ridiculous statement, it would be a better investment than paying billions to let people stay home instead of working, also known as welfare, SSI, or any other equivalent.

Ironically, you would not be able to even post a message to this board without the space program that you are criticizing. The computers we all use simply would not exist, at least not yet.
except i'm not criticizing the space program. i'm criticizing the manned space program.

and i remain confused by your and sorehoof's comment that having human payload somehow increased the pace of discovery in fields having nothing to do with manned exploration.

instead of changing the subject again, can you explain how these assertions are true?
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:02 PM
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Even if it was just velcro and Tang, which is a ridiculous statement, it would be a better investment than paying billions to let people stay home instead of working, also known as welfare, SSI, or any other equivalent.

Ironically, you would not be able to even post a message to this board without the space program that you are criticizing. The computers we all use simply would not exist, at least not yet.
jeez, is anything not about welfare with you people? We're talking about space and it takes you all of two posts to shoehorn welfare into the conversation.
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:42 PM
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