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Old 01-09-2010, 11:01 PM
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Dear Partymanners (KirisClown),

I've only heard bits and pieces here and there but I'm so sorry.

For anyone here who doesn't know, his account (with the most fantastic library as most of you know) was suspended because of some Pr**k.

If there's anything anyone here can do to help please let us know.
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Old 01-09-2010, 11:22 PM
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Thank you MMSC.. I appreciate the note..

Unfortunately it was all due to an individual that actually has worked in the sport of racing.. a person named Jeff Mende..

For anyone interested, here's what happened...


A few years ago I started a YouTube channel to pretty much show fans races they had no way of seeing anymore. Past greats like Holy Bull, Cigar, Skip Away etc.. It steadily built up over time.. by the time it was shut down the other day it had well over 2000 race videos.. and the channel had about 5 million views.

Some time in 2008 the individual (Mende) who had my channel shut down contacted me and said he had many past stakes races on video, recorded on vhs mainly from replay shows and wanted to know if Id like to add them to my channel.. Naturally i said yes..

Everything moved along smoothly until an article about me was written and appeared in the Sunday NY Times sports section.. Once this individual read it he was extremely upset that he was not written about too.. something I had no control over. The author who wrote it was interested in the story behind my channel and what motivated me to do it.. I managed to smooth things out with him though after adding a "special thank you" notice on my channel devoted to him.. so we continued...

Fast Forward a few months to September, to me receiving an email from the upset individual.. demanding that I thank him even more and show more appreciation than I've shown, or he would "pull the plug" on the whole operation.. He continued on, as if he was speaking to a naughty 5yr old.. I wouldn't have any of it and I told him he was taking the fun out of doing it and I no longer wanted to work with him.. I was not doing it for recognition where it seems that was his only intent.

Fast forward again to Thursday night and my channel being shut down.. I received notifications that he claims to own Easy Goer's race videos from Aqueduct, Belmont, Saratoga etc.. He even claims to own the video of Fusaichi Pegasus winning the Kentucky Derby, somehow he convinced YouTube that he personally owns the copyright to the races.

He apparently has worked in different areas of racing before.. but from this experience it appears he is nothing more than any enemy of the sport..
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Old 01-09-2010, 11:38 PM
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I just don't even know what to say... I'm speechless.

This is insane.

I owe so much to you. My interest / addiction didn't start until 2004 so you can imagine the years, decades of famous and fantastic races I had never seen. Hell, the champions and races I had never even heard of (!!!) and there they were. I don't know if people ever tell you how grateful they are, how much they appreciate the time and effort involved.

I'll start.

THANK YOU.

I don't know what happens next... if you fight this nut (I don't know his name... should I?), if there's anything that can be done...

Please just update us. Tell us if there's anything at all we can do to help. If you need to vent or anything at all you have fans here.

You have FRIENDS here.
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:43 AM
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Turn Coach loose on him.
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:50 AM
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After doing just a tiny bit of digging on Mende, I'm pretty confident he's an assshole. I'll post a little in the paddock.
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Old 01-10-2010, 02:35 AM
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He has a few posts at PA. . . Seems like a douche bag.

Why someone who cares about the sport would want to deprive fans of seeing races we can't see anywhere else for such a petty reason is beyond me.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:58 PM
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The channel has been reactivated..

Some of the small functions still need to come back(video thumbnail photos etc.), but the channel and the videos are available to view again.. Let's hope it stays that way..
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Old 01-29-2010, 05:43 AM
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that's great
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:30 AM
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Very glad to hear. Appreciate all the work you put into that channel KC.
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Old 01-29-2010, 08:28 AM
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Yay!
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Old 01-29-2010, 11:08 AM
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That's wonderful news!!!!!
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Old 01-29-2010, 01:28 PM
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Any word from Mende?
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Old 02-07-2010, 02:54 AM
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Any word from Mende?
He's made an appearance on PaceAdvantage tonight, he's really trying to make me look like the bad guy.

This coming on the heels of him threatening to shut down the channel again this afternoon..

Here's the link to it..

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=66443
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Old 01-29-2010, 05:01 PM
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The channel has been reactivated..

Some of the small functions still need to come back(video thumbnail photos etc.), but the channel and the videos are available to view again.. Let's hope it stays that way..


congratulations!! so glad you won this one.
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Old 01-29-2010, 09:28 PM
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Congrats!
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Old 01-29-2010, 01:29 PM
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Oh, and can we get back those deleted threads from the screening room?

Byk??
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Old 01-29-2010, 02:05 PM
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Oh, and can we get back those deleted threads from the screening room?

Byk??
I think Kiri must have deleted those himself. They aren't appearing as restorable.
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Old 01-29-2010, 02:30 PM
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Dang nabit!

Can he restore them?
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Old 01-29-2010, 02:44 PM
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Dang nabit!

Can he restore them?
He's the moderator for the room, but if they weren't permanently deleted, I'd be able to see them "shadowed" as restorable. You have option as mod to permanently delete or just take down from view. I think we'll have to rebuild the room...
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Old 01-29-2010, 02:47 PM
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He's the moderator for the room, but if they weren't permanently deleted, I'd be able to see them "shadowed" as restorable. You have option as mod to permanently delete or just take down from view. I think we'll have to rebuild the room...
Ok.

I'll start with the thread I remember best, the Indian Charlie thread.
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