She's Done

[hockey2315]

Shocker. . .

http://www.drf.com/news/article/108816.html

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Shocker. . .

http://www.drf.com/news/article/108816.html

Obviously afraid to face Rachel..

Actually it is finally a good time to say:

She has done enough

[Left Bank]

I'm surprised that none of the Sheiks or other Big shots have never offered to buy her.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

I'm surprised that none of the Sheiks or other Big shots have never offered to buy her.

I'm sure they have, does Jerry Moss really need the money?

That's why he still owns her.

[pba1817]

Rachel should set out to do the same next year... win the BC Classic on her preferred racing surface(CD).

[randallscott35]

Breed her to the Green Monkey.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by pba1817

Rachel should set out to do the same next year... win the BC Classic on her preferred racing surface(CD).

That I want to see. RA win the Classic against the males only getting 1 to 3 pounds and she wont get the 1 1/4.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Obviously afraid to face Rachel..

Actually it is finally a good time to say:

She has done enough

I don't believe she is afraid to face Rachel. How can anyone even say that. One of Zenyatta's best races, speed figure wise was in the apple blossum on the dirt. She just won a race with 8 grade 1 winners that represent 17 grade 1's. She beat all that Rachel beat in the 3 year old division as well as a far better crop of older horses than Zenyatta faced. She beat synthetic specialists and the best dirt horse in addition to the Euros. Now she was lightly raced (4 races to RA's 7) but do you really think she couldn't have put up a more formidable challenge to RA in the Woodward then Macho Again?
And one more thing. Zenyatta was the Champion. Why does so many fans think that SHE should have came to HER? Look, maybe there was some ducking going on on both sides. But RA and Zenyatta in a 12/14 horse field going 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 (dirt or fake dirt)? I'll go with Zenyatta every time. And you'd have to be foolish to think anything else. Zen's ears were pricked going past Gio Ponti! Have you any idea what that represents?

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

I don't believe she is afraid to face Rachel. How can anyone even say that. One of Zenyatta's best races, speed figure wise was in the apple blossum on the dirt. She just won a race with 8 grade 1 winners that represent 17 grade 1's. She beat all that Rachel beat in the 3 year old division as well as a far better crop of older horses than Zenyatta faced. She beat synthetic specialists and the best dirt horse in addition to the Euros. Now she was lightly raced (4 races to RA's 7) but do you really think she couldn't have put up a more formidable challenge to RA in the Woodward then Macho Again?
And one more thing. Zenyatta was the Champion. Why does so many fans think that SHE should have came to HER? Look, maybe there was some ducking going on on both sides. But RA and Zenyatta in a 12/14 horse field going 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 (dirt or fake dirt)? I'll go with Zenyatta every time. And you'd have to be foolish to think anything else. Zen's ears were pricked going past Gio Ponti! Have you any idea what that represents?

Nonsense Rachel Alexandra>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zeny atta

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

I don't believe she is afraid to face Rachel. How can anyone even say that. One of Zenyatta's best races, speed figure wise was in the apple blossum on the dirt. She just won a race with 8 grade 1 winners that represent 17 grade 1's. She beat all that Rachel beat in the 3 year old division as well as a far better crop of older horses than Zenyatta faced. She beat synthetic specialists and the best dirt horse in addition to the Euros. Now she was lightly raced (4 races to RA's 7) but do you really think she couldn't have put up a more formidable challenge to RA in the Woodward then Macho Again?
And one more thing. Zenyatta was the Champion. Why does so many fans think that SHE should have came to HER? Look, maybe there was some ducking going on on both sides. But RA and Zenyatta in a 12/14 horse field going 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 (dirt or fake dirt)? I'll go with Zenyatta every time. And you'd have to be foolish to think anything else. Zen's ears were pricked going past Gio Ponti! Have you any idea what that represents?

Please tell us what it represents,Mr. Science.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

I don't believe she is afraid to face Rachel. How can anyone even say that. One of Zenyatta's best races, speed figure wise was in the apple blossum on the dirt. She just won a race with 8 grade 1 winners that represent 17 grade 1's. She beat all that Rachel beat in the 3 year old division as well as a far better crop of older horses than Zenyatta faced. She beat synthetic specialists and the best dirt horse in addition to the Euros. Now she was lightly raced (4 races to RA's 7) but do you really think she couldn't have put up a more formidable challenge to RA in the Woodward then Macho Again?
And one more thing. Zenyatta was the Champion. Why does so many fans think that SHE should have came to HER? Look, maybe there was some ducking going on on both sides. But RA and Zenyatta in a 12/14 horse field going 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 (dirt or fake dirt)? I'll go with Zenyatta every time. And you'd have to be foolish to think anything else. Zen's ears were pricked going past Gio Ponti! Have you any idea what that represents?

Handi you have done enough

[CSC]

The only way I can see them reconsidering is if she comes back to challenge Cigar and Citation's win steak record.

As a horseracing fan one can hope for a short 4 race campaign culminating at CD next year.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Cardus

It represents that she beat a turf horse.

The older horses she beat haven't won a Grade 1 on conventional dirt this year and only 2 Grade 1s on artificial surfaces this year. She beat a bunch of turf horses,

[DaTruth]

Did Personal Ensign or Lady's Secret win the Breeders Cup Classic? Nope. That must mean Zenyatta is better than they were.

[dean smith]

A question for one of you "insiders," or anyone in the know:

If I own Zenyatta, how does this work now? What's next?

I mean, how do I decide which horse to breed her to? Do I breed her to a horse I already own? Or do I go out and pick the best stallion out there and if so, who's paying whom and how does ownership of the offspring work?

These aren't rhetorical questions or talking points. I would really like to know how this process plays out.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Pro-Ride and all other synthetic surfaces are not "fake dirt."

They are distinctly different surfaces than dirt.

And as we saw yet again this weekend, they should be viewed as such.

exactly.. they are much more "fake Turf" than they are "fake Dirt"

[Kasept]

Found this while scanning "Best Of" threads for moves to the Hatton Room...

Interesting thoughts at the time Moss pretended he was retiring Zenyatta.