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![]() It's never too early.
If Sea the Stars doesn't go? Keep an eye on Ms. Stacelita. LADBROKES BETTING ON ARC WITHOUT STARS By Press Association Sport Staff Superstar three-year-old Sea The Stars ![]() Connections stated an Arc bid was unlikely in the aftermath of the colt's Eclipse win last Saturday, and Ladbrokes have now decided to remove him from their market altogether. Spokesman David Williams said: "We're far from convinced Sea The Stars will go to Paris in the autumn and have decided the prudent thing would be to leave him out of the betting for the time being." Sea The Stars, winner of the 2000 Guineas and Derby, had been the 7-2 market leader but Aidan O'Brien's Irish Derby hero Fame and Glory now leads the betting at 4-1. Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe, Ladbrokes bet: 4-1 Fame And Glory, 5-1 Stacelita ![]() http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/n...ACING_Arc.html |
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![]() Possible...
Buena Vista (her replays can be found on the Japan racing thread)... Oh here's one (in English)... http://jra.jp/datafile/seiseki/g1/en...oaks2009_h.asx Sariska... http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...ks-win/607933/ |
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![]() Roughly 4-1 on Sea The Stars at this point, personally from what I have seen of him. I love him.
Vision D'tat is a healthy 10+/1. Like/love him also. Haven't seen much of Prix de Diane winner Stacelita(I can dig something up) but she seems to be all the rave, can a filly do it 2 yrs in a row? Why not.. Edit-Seen her race, one word Wow... |
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![]() Fame And Glory looked good in last, but is probably going to be overbet.
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![]() Getaway, who was 2nd in the Rheinland-Pokal this weekend...
(If he runs, this will be his third time in the Arc). |
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![]() Hope Sea The Stars won't go here, likelyhood of softer ground over twelve furlongs could be a real issue for him.
Fillies division looks pretty weak to me this year, so I'm wary of the likes of Sariska who keeps doing things ever so easily.
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![]() For a long time I've been concerned about the prospect of Sea The Stars running in The Arc. Thankfully, the ground hasn't come up soft. I'm still not 100% sure how he'll cope with a strongly run race over the 12 furlong distance, though.
If he's going to be beaten this season it'll be on Sunday. BUT...... The horse I'd take would be Conduit, as everything looks spot on for him there. Can he give 7lbs to Sea The Stars though? Doubtful. A very interesting race, but I couldn't be having a bet.
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![]() As of this morning,
Arc De Triomphe Odds Comparison(2nd from left is Ladbrokes odds) Sea The Stars 4/6 4/6 4/6 4/6 4/6 4/6 8/11 Fame And Glory 11/2 11/2 5 11/2 5 11/2 5 Conduit 9 8 7 8 15/2 8 7 Cavalryman 12 12 10 12 12 12 12 Vision DEtat 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 Stacelita 14 14 12 14 14 14 14 Dar Re Mi 20 16 20 22 14 20 20 Youmzain 20 16 20 16 20 20 20 Getaway 25 25 16 25 25 25 25 Beheshtam 33 33 25 28 33 33 33 |
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![]() I'm hoping for Sea the Stars / Stacelita / Youmzain
* * * RP... Sea The Stars drawn in stall six for Sunday's Arc By Andrew Scutts10.07AM 2 OCT 2009 SEA THE STARS has been drawn in gate six for the Qatar Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe. Fame And Glory has stall ten and Conduit is drawn 12. Nineteen runners will go to post for the world's richest turf race at Longchamp on Sunday, after Johann Zoffany was the only absentee at Friday's final declaration stage. If recent results are anything to go by, connections of Sea The Stars will be delighted with the draw, as two of the last four winners, Dylan Thomas (2007) and Hurricane Run (2005), were victorious in the race from stall six. The Mick Channon-trained Youmzain, who will race in a visor, has been handed a tricky draw in stall one. Although Zarkava won the Arc from stall one last year, her victory was the first from the lowest draw since Prince Royal in 1964. Godolphin's Cavalryman also has work to do to overcome the widest draw in 19. Dar Re Mi, who was disqualified in the Prix Vermeille last month, will race from stall two. The promoted winner of that race, Stacelita, has been drawn 16, which may not be ideal for a filly who likes to race prominently, as the stall numbers go from low against the rail to high on the outside (the opposite to Britain). The classy Vision D'Etat has a decent draw in nine, while Aidan O'Brien's two pacesetters, Set Sail and Grand Ducal, will race from stalls 14 and five respectively. Barrier in ( )... Sunday October 4 2009 Longchamp 15:15 Qatar Prix De L'arc De Triomphe (group 1) €4120000.00 added, 3yo plus, 1m 3f 204y, €2284540.00 penalty 19 runners Going: N/A No. Form Horse Age Wt Trainer Jockey OR NagMe Bet 1 (1) 32-4233 Youmzain (IRE) 28 6 9-5 M R Channon S M Levey SP SP SP 2 (12) 111-231 Conduit (IRE) 71 4 9-5 Sir Michael Stoute R L Moore SP SP SP 3 (9) 15-3112 Vision D'etat (FR) 21 4 9-5 E Libaud O Peslier SP SP SP 4 (17) 03-1135 Magadan (IRE) 98 4 9-5 E Lellouche A Crastus SP SP SP 5 (18) 34-2555 The Bogberry (USA) 28 4 9-5 A de Royer Dupre M Kappushev SP SP SP 6 (7) 243785 Steele Tango (USA) 92 4 9-5 R A Teal D Holland SP SP SP 7 (3) 88-2121 Getaway (GER) 28 6 9-5 J Hirschberger S Pasquier SP SP SP 8 (13) 1334-77 Tullamore (USA) 133 4 9-5 Z Koplik V Janacek SP SP SP 9 (4) 22-1125 Hot Six (BRZ) 63 4 9-4 G Duarte T Pereira SP SP SP 10 (2) 23-2110 Dar Re Mi 21 4 9-2 J H M Gosden J Fortune SP SP SP 11 (11) 349409 Tangaspeed (FR) 21 4 9-2 R Laplanche I Mendizabal SP SP SP 12 (8) 924353 La Boum (GER) 42 6 9-2 Rob collet T Jarnet SP SP SP 13 (15) 11462 Beheshtam (FR) 21 3 8-11 A de Royer Dupre G Mosse SP SP SP 14A (14) 000239 Set Sail (IRE) 29 3 8-11 A P O'Brien S M Levey SP SP SP 15A (10) 1-11212 Fame And Glory 29 3 8-11 A P O'Brien J P Murtagh SP SP SP 16 (19) 1-42111 Cavalryman 21 3 8-11 A Fabre L Dettori SP SP SP 17A (5) 1243-14 Grand Ducal (IRE) 29 3 8-11 A P O'Brien P J Smullen SP SP SP 18 (6) 1-11111 Sea The Stars (IRE) 29 3 8-11 J M Oxx M J Kinane SP SP SP 19 (16) 1-11111 Stacelita (FR) 21 3 8-8 J C Rouget C P Lemaire SP SP SP |
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![]() Other than Sea The Stars, tough call who will run big if the big favorite doesn't deliver. Just look at that field, some real nice horses in the world's deepest turf race.
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![]() Rooting for anyone (else), CSC?
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Again, rooting interest only. ![]() |
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