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06-15-2009, 08:37 AM
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nyra / gate crew
Steve - any response from NYRA or anything on the NYRA website in what took place on Sat in R7 at Belmont at the start ?
For those that didn't see it when the gates opened the #7 was in the grasp of one of the gate crew members , the horse reared up and spotted the field multiple lengths. Outside of the eventual winner the #7 was the other speed in the race. Now the Linda Rice horse (#11)is able to get out on a loose lead. The#11 goes wire to wire and wins the race. Nyra gives a refund on the #7 , but, that's little consolation to the p4 and p6players - they get moved to the post time favorite the #6 - who needed another horse to push the #11 on the front end . problem was the other horse was left in the gate. So if you were lucky eneough to only play a pick 3 you got a conso. payout. Is there any reason why NYRA can't refund a p4 / p6 ticket in this situation or at least pay a conso on the p4 assuming you had the other 3 legs? The guy who makes a win bet on the #7 got his money back , but, the guy who plays the late p4 and had the #7 singled and hit the other 3 legs walks away a loser - why no refund? How can this happen? the gate crew was flawless on Belmont Day from the races I saw when the whole world was watching , but, now on a sleepy sat afternoon we get one of these gate crew incidents again that affected the entire dynamic of the race. 
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06-15-2009, 08:44 AM
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Somebody forgot to yell "no, no, no, no, no, no!"
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06-15-2009, 08:56 AM
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If the fave had won would you feel the same way?
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06-15-2009, 09:05 AM
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NYRA is the most generous racetrack operator in the country on declaring non-starters. It isn't even close. The P4/P6 refund rules have been discussed ad nauseum. It's a difficult decision/situation. Refunding entire tickets is too large a negative impact on the pool. Offering a ticket with an alternate selection is a long term possiblility and requires support from the tote company. A conso is an option too I suppose. I'm not sure what else you can do with this topic. If it's so odious, don't play the P4/P6 in states where they don't refund.
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06-15-2009, 10:04 AM
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or http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...nyra+gate+crew or http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...nyra+gate+crew or http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...nyra+gate+crew or http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...nyra+gate+crew
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06-15-2009, 10:20 AM
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I'm going to try to make this point for the last time.
There are things we can control in the game, and others that we can't. The latter far outnumber the former. That's why the game is so difficult to beat. You just can't cover yourself when (seemingly) low probability events occur. However, to focus on the things that are beyond our control is to lose focus on what's important. When focus is shifted to what we can control, our decisions/opinions, and when we **** up we have no one to blame but ourselves, it quickly becomes apparent that we underestimated how difficult the game really is. And, when we also realize that the game itself is actually fair, the naivete of our initial perspective becomes apparent. Repeat after me: 1) you can pick the 'right' horse and lose 2) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and win 3) you can pick the 'right' horse and win 4) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and lose to only expect 3 and 4 to happen is to really miss the point
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